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    Re: Greek police clash with anti-austerity protesters

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Nobody should like austerity, seeing as how it is the economic elite's way of getting the poor to pay for their f-ups.
    Europeans, with their ancient ideas of class distinctions, still talk in terms of "economic elites", and I see an attempt being made by this present US administration at introducing these attitudes into the United States. It should be resisted at all costs.

    No members of society should be demonized because they are rich, poor, or middle class, though indeed these fashions rise and fall. The poor had their turn also.

    And in every case of this demonization process there was always some politician or political party encouraging these class distinctions in order to further their own political agendas or self advancement. They must be recognized for the political opportunists, and scoundrels, that they are.

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    Re: Greek police clash with anti-austerity protesters

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    I mean forcing the rich to pay for their own mistakes.
    It would seem clear that the rich didn't make as many mistakes in their lives as the poor.

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    Re: Greek police clash with anti-austerity protesters

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    Mohammed Bouyeri is a murderer and a thug who belongs to the 10th century or the 14th. I'm not talking about murder.

    Otherwise, violent protest is a form of behavior modification.
    That case was one of "violent protest", wasn't it?, and it certainly modified the bahaviour of many who were considering criticism of Islam.

    How far does your idea of "violent protest" extend?

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    Re: Greek police clash with anti-austerity protesters

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    My only hope is that the violence in these countries increases until the measures are reversed in their entirety, or until the governments are overthrown.

    Whichever comes first.
    Right. The governments should just print more money.

    That should work.

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    Re: Greek police clash with anti-austerity protesters

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Right. The governments should just print more money.

    That should work.
    Why not? it did for the Weimar.


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    Re: Greek police clash with anti-austerity protesters

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    This.
    In a nutshell.

    In UK, we Brits should expect nothing that isn't happening.
    Conservatives are renowned for not giving two ****s about those who are not wealthy and punishing the most vulnerable in our society and protecting the rich. It is what makes Conservatives Tories
    The big mistake was expecting the government to be all things to all people and that they could look after all your problems.

    How Europeans, with their checkered histories, could possibly trust government is a bafflement known only to them, but one they might possibility share in order that other countries not make their mistakes.

    Can any European who trusted their governments to look after them explain why they did so?

    Was it the charisma of the leader? The idea planted by ambitious politicians that government programs were not only just, but that they were affordable and, as a plus, would make everyone more prosperous?

    Why do Europeans still put trust in their governments and not each other or themselves.? Can any European explain this conundrum? Do they avoid history in the public education systems over there?

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    Re: Greek police clash with anti-austerity protesters

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Greece screwed up by taxing the bejesus out of the rich to support the poor. Result? Incredible amount of tax cheating by the rich....
    Tax collectors resorted to satellite pics to count the pools the rich have, and noted that some of the rich claimed income that was less than their utility bills...

    Which only demonstrates once again that "the poor" cannot rely on "the rich".

    If anyone is foolish enough to rely on "the rich" to advance themselves in the world then they are destined to remain poor and to die poor.

    Envy and resentment has never helped anyone rise out of their circumstances,

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    Re: Greek police clash with anti-austerity protesters

    The only positive I see is that European Socialists and European Government Thugs are killing each other.
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    Re: Greek police clash with anti-austerity protesters

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    The only positive I see is that European Socialists and European Government Thugs are killing each other.
    LOL most European governments are CONSERVATIVE.... how about yous tart with a thing called facts. before throwing the usual American slurs about Europe?
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    Re: Greek police clash with anti-austerity protesters

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Europeans, with their ancient ideas of class distinctions, still talk in terms of "economic elites", and I see an attempt being made by this present US administration at introducing these attitudes into the United States. It should be resisted at all costs.

    No members of society should be demonized because they are rich, poor, or middle class, though indeed these fashions rise and fall. The poor had their turn also.

    And in every case of this demonization process there was always some politician or political party encouraging these class distinctions in order to further their own political agendas or self advancement. They must be recognized for the political opportunists, and scoundrels, that they are.
    Whether you would like to acknowledge it or not there is a class system in the US based on economics.

    In modern, capitalistic societies: Income and wealth as major factors assigning one to a specific place in the hierarchy.
    Source

    See specifically in the link the "Class in the USA" segment.
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