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    Re: Army doctor who questions Obama's citizenship is court-martialed

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea
    Actually, technically, as well as otherwise, Hawaii IS part of the US, having become the 50th state on August 21, 1959, approximately 2 years before Obama was born there.
    Hawaii's Legal Case Against the United States

    You might be interested in that. Not sure how much I believe, as I only really read this article, but it seems to be a compelling argument.

    "But Sai points out that a Congressional joint resolution is American legislation restricted to the boundaries of the United States. The key to Hawaii's legal status, he says, remains with the 1893 executive agreement between two heads of state: President Grover Cleveland and Queen Liliuokalani."
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    Re: Army doctor who questions Obama's citizenship is court-martialed

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Well technically Hawai'i isn't part of the US so he's not a citizen.
    When it comes to Obama's citizenship, it's a part, enough.

    Unless, of course, Obama wasn't actually born there, then that's a different story.

    Even if he wasn't born in Hawaii and was born in Rhodesia, or where the hell ever, his mother was an American citizen, which makes all the rest of it irrelevant.
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    Re: Army doctor who questions Obama's citizenship is court-martialed

    BTW I don't really care about where Obama was born I just find the whole Hawai'i thing interesting and it's relevant to this discussion.
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    Re: Army doctor who questions Obama's citizenship is court-martialed

    Hawaii is secretly an America-hating Muslim.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Army doctor who questions Obama's citizenship is court-martialed

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Hawaii is secretly an America-hating Muslim.
    What a coincidence. Alaska is an America-hating Palin.
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    Re: Army doctor who questions Obama's citizenship is court-martialed

    Good. The man is an embarrassment to the uniform in trying to get out of his service in such a way.

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    Re: Army doctor who questions Obama's citizenship is court-martialed

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    BTW I don't really care about where Obama was born I just find the whole Hawai'i thing interesting and it's relevant to this discussion.
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    Re: Army doctor who questions Obama's citizenship is court-martialed

    They usually are.

    Right up until we decide they have something we want, are ill-equipped to defend it, and aren't a member of the neighborhood watch.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Army doctor who questions Obama's citizenship is court-martialed

    I really do think the argument that the Newlands Resolution, which declared Hawai'i a state by a joint resolution, is not applicable because Hawai'i wasn't a territory of the United States and therefore wasn't bound by US law, is an incredibly interesting argument to make, and much more interesting, IMO, than talking about whether or not Obama is a US citizen.

    It does bring the question up, though. If the annexation isn't legal under international law, then Hawai'i really isn't a territory of the United States, and therefore Obama can't be president as he isn't a US citizen.
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    Re: Army doctor who questions Obama's citizenship is court-martialed

    Besides, I don't want Obama to get kicked out of office, because he's not really a natural born American citizen. I wanna be sittin' in front the TV on election night, 2012, with a 12 pack and watch that mother ****er get voted the **** out of office by the American people, because he's a no good libbo, America hatin' piece of ****.

    That's gonna be way, way more fun.
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