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    Re: Juarez counts 3,000th homicide of 2010

    Why is it drug legalization advocates seem to always say we should surrender the war on drugs because it has failed to end drug use, but never say we should abandon the war on pverty because it hasn't ended poverty?

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    Re: Juarez counts 3,000th homicide of 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Call me a liar for 100 million

    Yeah but far less of the hard****. Most of the weed we get ain't from mexico either, good ole fashion home grown canadian **** BC bud an all that.

    Canada's kids look like they are using drugs at comparable rates to the US kids...

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    Just because your population is far less than that of America, doesn't mean that the problem is any less as a percentage of your population.

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    Re: Juarez counts 3,000th homicide of 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I would be in favor of taking the troops from Iraq and sending them to the border with Mexico. The cost is justified. We are part of Mexico's problem because we allow for the problem (drugs) to benefit in our country.



    Yep. Enforce the laws and take a tough stance. It's crazy thinking that I know so many people who have used illegal drugs that are not in jail. We take it too lightly legally and culturally.
    The war on drugs is a complete failure and not because of lack of enforcement. It is a failure because of the cost in money and the cost in lives.

    Legalize it and tax it, then you remove the market right from under the cartels and then they will have nothing. Prohibition hasn't worked.

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    Re: Juarez counts 3,000th homicide of 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The war on drugs is a complete failure and not because of lack of enforcement. It is a failure because of the cost in money and the cost in lives.

    Legalize it and tax it, then you remove the market right from under the cartels and then they will have nothing. Prohibition hasn't worked.

    Surprise, but I agree with you on this to an extent. Drugs like Pot, would work that way, but harder drugs like Cocaine, and Heroin probably wouldn't see much of a change in criminality. And it would degrade our society.

    Interesting though, I wonder if the argument you make about the WoD, can be applied to the also costly with no real result, War on Poverty?

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    Re: Juarez counts 3,000th homicide of 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by snilloctjc View Post
    Why is it drug legalization advocates seem to always say we should surrender the war on drugs because it has failed to end drug use, but never say we should abandon the war on pverty because it hasn't ended poverty?

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    Really like who? If it were up to me I would nuke the War on Drugs and all federal entitlement programs.
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    Re: Juarez counts 3,000th homicide of 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crow View Post
    Janet Napolitano is the one responsible for the mess. She said that the Arizona border has been more secure now than ever. Remember her statement??
    Her statement tells you a lot about her.

    She is from Arizona and knows that is not true so why would she say that?

    She says what she is told to say regardless of the truth.

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    Re: Juarez counts 3,000th homicide of 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by snilloctjc View Post
    Why is it drug legalization advocates seem to always say we should surrender the war on drugs because it has failed to end drug use, but never say we should abandon the war on pverty because it hasn't ended poverty?

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    both wars were idiotic and have cost us too much liberty and way too much government



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    Re: Juarez counts 3,000th homicide of 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Canada's kids look like they are using drugs at comparable rates to the US kids...

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    Just because your population is far less than that of America, doesn't mean that the problem is any less as a percentage of your population.

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    I never argued we weren't all on drugs, we have the highest rate of marijuana use per capita in the developed world.

    All I'm arguing is more people = more viable addicts = equals more product being shipped to that country/area = more gang and drug related crime.

    Hence the united states with a bigger population.

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    Re: Juarez counts 3,000th homicide of 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I never argued we weren't all on drugs, we have the highest rate of marijuana use per capita in the developed world.

    All I'm arguing is more people = more viable addicts = equals more product being shipped to that country/area = more gang and drug related crime.

    Hence the united states with a bigger population.

    Yeah, ok....But that doesn't solve the problem of more terrorists waiting in Canada trying to enter the US.....



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