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    Re: Juarez counts 3,000th homicide of 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Hey man, if there was no market for drugs, they wouldn't be here would they, people seem to always think this is a battle between good and evil or some crap lol.
    chill dude, I agree with you. I have been against the war on drugs for decades. I understand market driven reality. I also cannot find the part of the constitution that allows the war on drugs. The Commerce clause doesn't cut it with me.



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    Re: Juarez counts 3,000th homicide of 2010

    Enforce our drug laws and secure the border. I don't know any other nation that debates securing it's border with a violent drug infested nation who exports illegal substances across our border. Destroy the market by enforcing drug laws, secure the border, and let Mexico deal with Mexico's problems.
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    Re: Juarez counts 3,000th homicide of 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Well ah, maybe if your affluent and drug addicted society would stop buying all the heroin perhaps things would change
    not much of a campaign slogan, that

    not much of a policy either

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    Re: Juarez counts 3,000th homicide of 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Enforce our drug laws and secure the border. I don't know any other nation that debates securing it's border with a violent drug infested nation who exports illegal substances across our border. Destroy the market by enforcing drug laws, secure the border, and let Mexico deal with Mexico's problems.
    That has proven inneffective, and creates more crime then it discourages. Putting a pothead in jail will only ruin his life, and turn him into a criminal. There's a reason prison is called "University for Criminals".

    Securing the border that is 2000 miles long. I'd like to see any country do that, without at least spending themselves into oblivion, and since you're already doing that, I wouldn't advise it. The great wall of China ended up doing no service to the Chinese in the end

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude;1059166308[B
    ]chill dude[/B], I agree with you. I have been against the war on drugs for decades. I understand market driven reality. I also cannot find the part of the constitution that allows the war on drugs. The Commerce clause doesn't cut it with me.
    I wasn't attacking you dogg lol.

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    Re: Juarez counts 3,000th homicide of 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Enforce our drug laws and secure the border. I don't know any other nation that debates securing it's border with a violent drug infested nation who exports illegal substances across our border. Destroy the market by enforcing drug laws, secure the border, and let Mexico deal with Mexico's problems.
    Billions on a fence, police state, expansion of prisons, etc. You want this? When are drug law not 'enforced'? Theyre laws. The point of the thread that we are part of mexico's problem.

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    Re: Juarez counts 3,000th homicide of 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Enforce our drug laws and secure the border. I don't know any other nation that debates securing it's border with a violent drug infested nation who exports illegal substances across our border. Destroy the market by enforcing drug laws, secure the border, and let Mexico deal with Mexico's problems.
    So we need to enforce the drug laws that enabled the creation of the violent drug infestation in the first place? We have been enforcing drug laws for 40 years and ratcheting down on them and making them tougher all the while.
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    Re: Juarez counts 3,000th homicide of 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    not much of a campaign slogan, that

    not much of a policy either
    I know you like to talk politically Prof, all I'm saying, right or wrong Clinton has a point...

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    Re: Juarez counts 3,000th homicide of 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Billions on a fence, police state, expansion of prisons, etc. You want this? When are drug law not 'enforced'? Theyre laws. The point of the thread that we are part of mexico's problem.
    I would be in favor of taking the troops from Iraq and sending them to the border with Mexico. The cost is justified. We are part of Mexico's problem because we allow for the problem (drugs) to benefit in our country.

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    So we need to enforce the drug laws that enabled the creation of the violent drug infestation in the first place?
    Yep. Enforce the laws and take a tough stance. It's crazy thinking that I know so many people who have used illegal drugs that are not in jail. We take it too lightly legally and culturally.
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    Re: Juarez counts 3,000th homicide of 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    There will come a time that making jokes or ignoring the problems in Mexico are going come to haunt Obama for his inaction.

    Already there are problems here because of the drug wars from San Diego to Brownsville, but they are under reported or ignored by the Obamedia, and it was going on under President Bush as well.

    When the Cartels finally take total control we will be either forced to take action or as Obama is going to do what he does best, and lie about how it's no big deal, go back to sleep.
    Janet Napolitano is the one responsible for the mess. She said that the Arizona border has been more secure now than ever. Remember her statement??

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    Re: Juarez counts 3,000th homicide of 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Well ah, maybe if your affluent and drug addicted society would stop buying all the heroin perhaps things would change
    You think all those drugs stop at the Canadian border?

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