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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by WeAreReborn View Post
    But homosexuality isn't a negative condition... Or something that should only be tolerated. It should be accepted, and I don't see any reason why it shouldn't.
    So what's not negative about years of frequent sodomy performed upon the bottom of a human body?
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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hancock View Post
    So what's not negative about years of frequent sodomy performed upon the bottom of a human body?
    Apparently nothing if they do it. Even if it is, I see no reason why we should condemn something that is none of our business.

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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    one doesn't have to know all that much about the court to see that the loss of kagan isn't helpful

    there has been a tremendous amount of movement on dadt in congress the last few days, i'd like to tell you, but it's unfortunately a rather long story

    the bottom line---the votes do appear to be there, it does not quite appear that leadership knows what it has, but it will soon

    scott brown spoke pretty unequivocally today, it'd be a smart move for #41 from massachusetts, elections have consequences, he is after all scott brown

    it's all very, very complicated

    the republicans have made it quite clear, and they mean what they say---they will kill everything and literally anything until the 2011 tax rate is established

    we all saw the clinton/obama/bush/mcconnell/boehner tax plan whoosh thru the senate yesterday, 81-19

    we all recall the mud throwing mutiny mounted against the president by the house libs, led by pete welch, anthony weiner, george miller, lynn woolsey...

    it appeared tho, as of yesterday, that the progressives had conceded to their prez, consensus was that the tax cuts for the rich, and the republican written estate tax, and the 2% holiday on social security payroll on the workers' end, and the 13 months extension of unemployment---it was all sposed to pass today

    but the progs did it again this morning, thru a snit over rules---essentially, they demand an opportunity to OPPOSE the senate bill as written (otherwise known as clinton/obama/bush), which embarrassment nancy, on the president's behalf, apparently, wishes to avoid

    it does, however, look like the mcconnell/boehner bill will ultimately make it thru pelosi's place, the weiners, et al, will get a comprehensive amendment they can call their own

    now, if that deal is ever done, once the 2011 tax is established, then, yes, there are republicans willing to deal, willing to go over on dadt and other things

    meanwhile, harry has for weeks been like this---we'll do dream, we won't do dream, we'll do start, it's our top priority, we'll do dadt in a defense appropriations, we'll do it stand alone, we'll do dream as part of defense, we'll do it separately, start is our top priority...

    he changes literally almost by the hour

    bottom line---if and when he ever gets the votes on anything he'll go

    and, like i said, once the tax bill is done, the browns and snowes and collins and murkowskis and lugars, benetts and voinovichs are willing to play

    however...

    an entirely new battlefront, as you probably know, has emerged in the last three days---this 1.1T omnibus with all the earmarks

    the govt failed to pass a budget for 2010, has been operating on cr's (continuing resolutions) since october 1, the last passed on 12-8 running for only 2 weeks, i believe

    republicans are on to the omnibus

    republicans have a big decision to make, should they block it?

    if they do, a war will break out, and that will very, very negatively impact movement on dadt (and the dream and the start...)

    start, by the way, is probably more neocon than left

    the gop's weighty call on the omnibus is complicated by the fact that so many of us ourselves are major earmarkers---and in THIS omnibus

    maverick mccain, of all people, is the topical leader of tea, here, he has made anti-earmarks a mavericky crusade for his career

    KEITH OLBERMANN REPORTED AT 8:01 EASTERN TONITE THAT HARRY HAS PULLED THE OMNIBUS

    that's pretty much where it stands, dadt, in congress, i believe---the votes probably are there, but leadership is still having trouble getting its act together

    i could provide many links, more than half from politico the last 3 or 4 days

    stay up
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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hancock View Post
    So what's not negative about years of frequent sodomy performed upon the bottom of a human body?
    ....what the hell IS negative about it!?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Give me sodomy or give me death!
    We became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers - Lindsey Graham

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by WeAreReborn View Post
    Apparently nothing if they do it. Even if it is, I see no reason why we should condemn something that is none of our business.
    Your diet of 100% fat isn't my business either. Your slashing and cutting of your extremities is my business either. Your allowing your spouse to beat you isn't my business either. Your refusal to exercise isn't my business either. Your attempt at suicide isn't my business either.

    Obesity, heart disease, low self-esteem, and all manner of psychological problems are easily observable from the perch of every American. Should we see these conditions in a positive light? I would think not!

    Should we publicly condemn such behaviors. What good would that do?
    Do we each reserve the personal right to judge and condemn? Of course, but what good would that do?

    The best course of action would be to educate everyone, including heterosexuals about the medical issue that may result from sodomy. As we get older, all of our muscles become more relaxed. When pre-relaxed sphincter muscles become more relaxed and a portion of the intestine is allowed to protude into the outside environment, this is not a good thing! Sanitation, comfort, and personal embarrassment due to malordorous smells become quite evident from PROLAPSE!
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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Now, granted, I left the Navy decades ago, and things might have changed. We were told no signs of affection while in uniform, except the obvious cases of departure/returns from tours of duty.
    Quote Originally Posted by Just1Voice View Post
    If heterosexuals are allowed to do it, then homosexuals should be allowed to do it as well. That said, I am pretty sure that PDA is strongly discouraged among straight folk while actively serving in the military, and as long as that is the case, then I think homosexuals are no more likely to break that taboo than heterosexuals.
    Precisely my point. There shouldn't be a differentiation between same-sex PDA and opposite-sex PDA.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hancock View Post
    PS.

    I generally support GLBT issues....
    Remember when you said this?

    You're deluding yourself.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hancock View Post
    The best course of action would be to educate everyone, including heterosexuals about the medical issue that may result from sodomy. As we get older, all of our muscles become more realxed. When pre-relaxed sphincter muscles become more relaxed and a portion of the intestine is allowed to protude into the outside environment, this is not a good thing! Sanitation, comfort, and personal embarrassment due to malordorous smells become quite evident from PROLAPSE!
    What does this have to do with homosexuals serving in the military?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hancock View Post
    Your diet of 100% fat isn't my business either. Your slashing and cutting of your extremities is my business either. Your allowing your spouse to beat you isn't my business either. Your refusal to exercise isn't my business either. Your attempt at suicide isn't my business either.

    Obesity, heart disease, low self-esteem, and all manner of psychological problems are easily observable from the perch of every American. Should we see these conditions in a positive light? I would think not!

    Should we publicly condemn such behaviors. What good would that do?
    Do we each reserve the personal right to judge and condemn? Of course, but what good would that do?

    The best course of action would be to educate everyone, including heterosexuals about the medical issue that may result from sodomy. As we get older, all of our muscles become more relaxed. When pre-relaxed sphincter muscles become more relaxed and a portion of the intestine is allowed to protude into the outside environment, this is not a good thing! Sanitation, comfort, and personal embarrassment due to malordorous smells become quite evident from PROLAPSE!
    I would like to see a medical study proving such claims, otherwise it is hearsay.

    Edit: Not that it really matters either way.
    Last edited by WeAreReborn; 12-16-10 at 09:42 PM.

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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Harry Reid pulls $1.1 trillion spending bill from floor - David Rogers - POLITICO.com

    yes, this is an absolutely huge development with gigantic reverberations on several fronts

    biggest picture---it is a huge victory for the gop as harry's signal (forced by one armed daniel inouye from hawaii) that he will substitute another short term cr for his year long omnibus turns control over 2011 spending to the orange dude who cries, speaker boehner

    however, by clearing this potential armageddon off his floor, harry almost surely enhances his chances of romancing the browns and murkowskis on dadt and other things

    just fyi

    stay up

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