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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    That is your opinion. I'd take my chances with SCOTUS if I were a Senator. That's my opinion.
    SCOTUS will tie on it since Kagan will stand out. It'll be the Appeals court ruling that will decide it. And if you were a Senator who genuinely cared about the military then you would repeal it. It sounds like you wuold be a Senator more concerned politics.

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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    SCOTUS will tie on it since Kagan will stand out. It'll be the Appeals court ruling that will decide it. And if you were a Senator who genuinely cared about the military then you would repeal it. It sounds like you wuold be a Senator more concerned politics.
    So you think we should open the military up to unlimited lawsuits?

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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    HOLY COW!!!!! Are you for real????

    OK, I'm being sarcastic.

    That court ruling means nothing until it comes from SCOTUS and everyone knows that.
    Actually this is not true. The court rulings have limited effect before SCOTUS, but the do have an effect.
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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    DADT wonít pass in the Senate because as lame and power hungry as our representatives are, they know repeal of DADT isnít sufficient without some rules and restrictions.

    The House didnít care because it was sucking up to the left and knew it would never pass in the Senate.

    This is an excellent example of your tax dollars being wasted by politicians playing politics. DADT canít be repealed without a few legal wrinkles being ironed out first.
    Actually if it makes it to a vote, it has a very good chance of passage. 5 Republicans have openly supported repeal of DADT and voted against it due to other reasons.

    By the way, there will be rules in place, and the bill gives the military time to get ready for the change.
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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    So you think we should open the military up to unlimited lawsuits?
    Actually you have it all wrong. If the courts determine that it is unconstitutional the you would face unlimited lawsuits. If the repeal passes, then you would face very few such lawsuits. The reason is because the former would find that the constitutional rights of about 15,000 people had been violated, whereas the latter would mean that the policy is simply ended and anyone who wishes to re-enlist can do so.

    Trust me, you really, really want Congress to repeal this, because if it the courts overturn it, you will have a lawsuit ****storm.

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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    You prove my point.

    You already want the military to fund implants for gay male soldiers.
    ...I...do?
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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Ughh...Whatever. I made my point clear: The lawsuits that will follow if this isn't done right will cripple the US military.

    I just don’t see why this law needs to be shoved through right now without checks and balances that will protect our military force.

    I honestly don’t give a crap about why cross dressers do what they do. Neither do most soldiers. It isn't a social network you know?
    As has been stated, there are more likely to be lawsuits if the rule isn't repealed by Congress. Military members, actually in the military, are not allowed to sue the federal government. Once they get out, they can if they have a case of wrongful discharge or something else.

    And I was pointing out to you that since not all crossdressers are gay and there is no actual rule against someone being in the military and being a crossdresser off duty, then why haven't we already seen lawsuits for men in the military to get breast implants? It doesn't make any sense that they would suddenly start after DADT is repealed, unless you somehow believe that there are really that many gay crossdressers in or trying to join the military who would actually insist that they are entitled to breast implants. I believe there are many people who would not support giving anyone breast implants (with the possible exception of reconstructive surgery after some accident or medical issue).
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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    SCOTUS will tie on it since Kagan will stand out. It'll be the Appeals court ruling that will decide it. And if you were a Senator who genuinely cared about the military then you would repeal it. It sounds like you wuold be a Senator more concerned politics.
    No way will there be a tie.........The SCOTUS will uphold DADT by a 5 to 4 vote with Kennedy rendering the deciding vote,,,,,,,,,,,,
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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    No way will there be a tie.........The SCOTUS will uphold DADT by a 5 to 4 vote with Kennedy rendering the deciding vote,,,,,,,,,,,,
    Navy, it can't be 5-4 since Kagan will have to recuse herself. Best to stop while you are behind sir.
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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    DADT should not be repealed! It should however be ammended...

    For those gays who are outted, but who continue to behave professionally (that means NOT walking around hand in hand with other men or otherwise demonstrating affection, publicly), they should NOT have their service interrupted.

    We CANNOT have men publicly kissing one another or publicly walking hand in hand while in the militatry!


    Now, if we should ever NOT need a military then, whatever they want to is just fine with me...

    PS.

    I generally support GLBT issues....
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