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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    You can have the last word on the prop 8 issue.
    Nah you can have it. I haven't decided where I stand on what Brown's doing yet.
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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Nah you can have it. I haven't decided where I stand on what Brown's doing yet.
    I worked my way through the entire ruling for the discussion on it. The judges logic in his ruling that Prop 8 was unconstitutional seemed fairly sound to me.
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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    It isn't about "conservative logic". DADT will be a disaster for our military because it further socializes one of the few bastions of unadulterated “do your job and do it well” government institutions.

    The discrimination lawsuits that will follow and the money the military will now need to spend on legal defense against guys who want to get breast implants, bunk with women, complain about being discriminated against etc.

    The military isn’t a social arm of America, it’s all about soldiers. Soldiers, since the beginning of organized armies, have always been forced to lose their personal identities.

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I worked my way through the entire ruling for the discussion on it. The judges logic in his ruling that Prop 8 was unconstitutional seemed fairly sound to me.
    I take back the respect you gained. I was mistaken. You really are a dirt bag after all aren't you?

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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I worked my way through the entire ruling for the discussion on it. The judges logic in his ruling that Prop 8 was unconstitutional seemed fairly sound to me.
    Indeed, however apparently they might not get to the 9th district because the State wasn't involved. Not sure how I feel about it yet. I mean obviously it's a law I oppose, but he is an elected official...eh, jury's still out. (hee hee, punny)
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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    It isn't about "conservative logic". DADT will be a disaster for our military because it further socializes one of the few bastions of unadulterated “do your job and do it well” government institutions.

    The discrimination lawsuits that will follow and the money the military will now need to spend on legal defense against guys who want to get breast implants, bunk with women, complain about being discriminated against etc.

    The military isn’t a social arm of America, it’s all about soldiers. Soldiers, since the beginning of organized armies, have always been forced to lose their personal identities.
    Ooo, disaster is a strong word.

    The military does indeed have a job to do, and I am the first person who will say that if a person's sexuality is getting in the way of their performance, they don't belong in the military. However, it's not unreasonable to allow soldiers to have their family as their support base. And soldiers do talk about their families/girlfriends/weekend hookups as a way of bonding with each other. I think it's unreasonable to not allow gay soliders to have the same support.
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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    I take back the respect you gained. I was mistaken. You really are a dirt bag after all aren't you?
    The dirtiest.

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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    It isn't about "conservative logic". DADT will be a disaster for our military because it further socializes one of the few bastions of unadulterated “do your job and do it well” government institutions.

    The discrimination lawsuits that will follow and the money the military will now need to spend on legal defense against guys who want to get breast implants, bunk with women, complain about being discriminated against etc.

    The military isn’t a social arm of America, it’s all about soldiers. Soldiers, since the beginning of organized armies, have always been forced to lose their personal identities.
    The policy itself is discriminatory. The policy itself prevents the military from just being about "do your job". Those gay personnel in the military still have to fear discharge for their sexuality even if they are doing their job but want to do some of the same things that heterosexual are allowed to do, such as get married, publicly acknowledge that they like a certain gender of people, and/or bring their significant other to military functions and actually be able to claim that person as their significant other.
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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

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    The dirtiest.

    Kelzie, we are talking about you in DP chat.
    About how cool I am, obviously.
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    Re: House approves repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell'(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    About how cool I am, obviously.
    well of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

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