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    Re: Senators load spending bill with earmarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I think it's kind of a novel idea... but a subjective one at that. If people didn't wanna pay taxes to protest the Iraq war I'm sure you'd feel a little different... again its opinion here.

    If America decided tommorow not to pay federal income tax... I'm pretty sure the world economy would tank in about 5 minutes, be amazing to watch.

    You're probably right in that there are things within the budget that I do want funded with my dollars, and to Boo's point that there are things that I don't, and that I elect reps on the basis that they support my ideals. But, even if this were to happen for say one day, everybody sends in their taxes on April 16th instead of the 15th, pay the penalty then in unified voice send the message to knock off the elitist crap! Maybe they would hear.....The phrase I like in this instance is "When the people fear the government you have tyranny, when the government fears the people, you have freedom"....


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    Re: Senators load spending bill with earmarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Since the bill was put together a while back, I'm sure they do. However they pledged no more for a while at least. I pity any of them who vote yes.
    It won't hurt them at all. You see, over all there will be criticism, but as their states benefit, they will still likely win their reelection because of the pork and not despite them.

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    Re: Senators load spending bill with earmarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It won't hurt them at all. You see, over all there will be criticism, but as their states benefit, they will still likely win their reelection because of the pork and not despite them.

    Yep, and one of the problems with the down fall of Rome was that the people realized that they could vote themselves wealth from the treasury. When that happens, game over.


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    Re: Senators load spending bill with earmarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I've always thought it was weird how people focus on earmarks instead of what actually goes into the various departments. 8 Billion for earmarks is some giant waste, but the DOD spending twice that on a weapon system we'll never use doesn't get much attention.

    Earmarks aren't always bad. Sometimes they're specific projects that are important and beneficial to the community.



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    Re: Senators load spending bill with earmarks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yep, and one of the problems with the down fall of Rome was that the people realized that they could vote themselves wealth from the treasury. When that happens, game over.


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    Re: Senators load spending bill with earmarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I hope the Republicans all vote NO.

    Fat chance!
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    Re: Senators load spending bill with earmarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I've always thought it was weird how people focus on earmarks instead of what actually goes into the various departments. 8 Billion for earmarks is some giant waste, but the DOD spending twice that on a weapon system we'll never use doesn't get much attention.

    Earmarks aren't always bad. Sometimes they're specific projects that are important and beneficial to the community.



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    Re: Senators load spending bill with earmarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It won't hurt them at all. You see, over all there will be criticism, but as their states benefit, they will still likely win their reelection because of the pork and not despite them.
    My thoughts in red
    In the waning days of the lame-duck congressional session, Democrats controlling the Senate [U]in collaboration with a handful of old-school Republicans [/U](whoever they are, they better be careful) are pushing to wrap $1.27 trillion worth of unfinished budget work into a single "omnibus" appropriations bill.
    Their 1,900-plus-page bill comes to the floor this week stuffed with provisions sought by lawmakers. It contains thousands of pet projects known as earmarks, pushed by Democratic and GOP senators alike despite a pledge by Republicans to give up such projects next year.

    There's also $4 million sought by Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell for the Kentucky National Guard's marijuana eradication efforts and $8 million sought by GOP Sen. John Thune of South Dakota to help maintain the B-1 bomber fleet in his state.
    [B]Although their states would benefit, both Republicans oppose the bill, and McConnell said Tuesday that he has asked for his earmarks to be removed[/B].Good boys. :-)Democrats hope to pass the measure by a midnight deadline Saturday.

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    Re: Senators load spending bill with earmarks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yep, and one of the problems with the down fall of Rome was that the people realized that they could vote themselves wealth from the treasury. When that happens, game over.


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    Re: Senators load spending bill with earmarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    When they raise everyone's taxes to cover the cost of all these fat-porky bills you won't be laughing.
    No taxes are necessary. Your trusty Federal Reserve can print dollars out the gazoo.
    The United States is entirely [354 U.S. 1, 6] a creature of the Constitution. 3 Its power and authority have no other source. It can only act in accordance with all the limitations imposed by the Constitution. -REID v. COVERT, 354 U.S. 1 (1957)

    Choosing between PUBS and DIMS is like choosing between warm crap and warmer crap; they both stink. Shooterman 1935-

    God made Texas almost perfect, but gave us 'skeeters, 'gators, rattlesnakes, and LIB DIMS and PUBS ( still rattlesnakes ) so we wouldn't think we were already in Heaven. Shooterman 1935-

    The economy is experiencing a crack up boom. That's like a woman flying upside down in a plane and attempting to land; big crack up, go boom.

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