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    Re: Liberals giving up tax fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The damage was done before the spending. The spending is a response to the damage, which occured under the Bush tax cuts (see you've pick up on the republican spin word ).
    How did the Bush tax cuts cause the recession?

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    Re: Liberals giving up tax fight

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    How did the Bush tax cuts cause the recession?
    Cause? I never said caused. I said it happend with the tax cuts in place. And that is a fact.

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    Re: Liberals giving up tax fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Cause? I never said caused. I said it happend with the tax cuts in place. And that is a fact.
    Yep, because the spending was out of control, and libs ramped it up by some 400% congradulations, you libs will be seen in history as the responsible party who push the American economy over the edge, and destroyed it.....You should be proud.


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    Re: Liberals giving up tax fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    The Bush tax cuts expired by the law Bush signed. They're over. Kaput. Done. Fork-time™.

    For the next couple of years, welcome to the Obama tax rates lowered by the law he will sign very soon now.

    Now, repeat after me, thank you, President Obama.

    There, that wasn't too hard.

    Now go spend your Obama-windfall™.
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    THIS IS NOT A TAX CUT! It simply is maintaining the current tax rates.
    I have to thank Chappy for enlightening me on this. All this time I've held the Shooterman opinion. But Chap is correct...by law put forth by the Bush admin taxes are to raise come January. And Pres Obama is supporting a broad tax cut in its place that happens to be the equal of the Bush tax rates. So I have to thank the President for that much.

    However, just like Pres Clinton in '94, Obama is forced by the voters and the GOP Congress to drop his own philosophy for that of the people. Without our will, Obama would have supported broad tax increases at this time. Any thanks needs to be measured and verified because left unattended, the President will turn on us.
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    Re: Liberals giving up tax fight

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yep, because the spending was out of control, and libs ramped it up by some 400% congradulations, you libs will be seen in history as the responsible party who push the American economy over the edge, and destroyed it.....You should be proud.


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    J, that's nonsense. It really is. Spending may effect the deficit, which is a problem, but both parties are resonsible for that. But business, the economy, is more than that, and tax cuts did not kerep it rolling smmothly. You really should become more objective in your analysis.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Liberals giving up tax fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Cause? I never said caused. I said it happend with the tax cuts in place. And that is a fact.
    Yes, that is a fact, are you still getting yours? Since spending caused the problem, who has controlled the purse strings since January 2007, Democrats or Republicans?

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    Re: Liberals giving up tax fight

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    Yes, that is a fact, are you still getting yours? Since spending caused the problem, who has controlled the purse strings since January 2007, Democrats or Republicans?
    Who controlled it before then? Are you suggesting we were fiscally responsible before 2007? I hope not as that would be not only inaccurate, but silly.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Liberals giving up tax fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Who controlled it before then? Are you suggesting we were fiscally responsible before 2007? I hope not as that would be not only inaccurate, but silly.
    Did I say that, fact is since Democrats took control of Congress the debt has risen 5 trillion dollars. Bush left office with the debt at 10.6 trillion and it is now almost 14 trillion all due to spending increases that did nothing to create jobs, high unemployment, and low economic growth.

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    Re: Liberals giving up tax fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Who controlled it before then? Are you suggesting we were fiscally responsible before 2007? I hope not as that would be not only inaccurate, but silly.
    Why the Left Hates Tax Cuts for the Wealthy: Caroline Baum - Bloomberg

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    Re: Liberals giving up tax fight

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    you mean, extending current rates? That's not a tax cut. it would only be a tax cut if Obama let them expire FIRST. Which he is not doing. You and others here are just trying to justify Obama's major compromise to yourselves, when really, Obama had no choice if he wanted to survive. Conservatives get what they've always wanted, for once, and you're doing the only thing you can do, pretend that it was because the liberals were "nice".
    They have to put their own spin on it. If they didn't (and told the truth) for the last few weeks we would have been hearing "Democrats want to raise taxes on those making over 250,000." Instead they spun it to say, "Republicans want to give tax cuts to the rich."

    See how Dem Speak works? :-)
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