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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    The issue is whether or not she was denied a request for leave due to religious and/or racial discrimination, which may be illegal relative to the civil rights act.
    To me it's completely absurd. FMLA provides for up to 12 weeks unpaid leave that has to be legally granted, but that's for family/medical reasons only. notice you can't just choose not to have medical issues that require leave, and arguably you won't sanely choose to have medical issues. You can't control if your parents have major medical issues suddenly, etc.
    You can choose your religion, and choose to observe or not observe certain aspects of it. But more importantly, what differentiates religious validity? Nothing. Anyone can make up any nonsense religion, come up with some goofy-ass "requirements", and then suddenly they all need to be granted leave? Administrators are supposed to be able to evaluate an infinite number of religions, their validity, or fear a law suit? My vote is, no way. Hopefully everyone else they have granted leave recently is covered under FMLA or for maternity/paternity.

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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    The Hajj formally begins on the eighth day of Dhul-Hijjah (the 12th month of the Islamic lunar year). It is during this month that the annual pilgrimage to Mecca occurs. Prophet Muhamamad himself sanctioned the first ten days of this month as a special time for devotion. All of the rituals cumulate on Eid < More complex but short and simple version
    Just curious... if the Hajj is the first ten days of the month, why did she need 21 days off?
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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    she has the rest of her life to make the pilgrimage
    the employer needs to accomplish its mission
    it appears her being unavailable would make achieving that mission more difficult
    the employer has a legitimate basis not to authorize her request for three weeks of unpaid leave

    the employer is screwed if it can be shown other teachers are being provide extended leave for non-essential activities. if that can be found, the the lady may have a valid case. otherwise she must abide by the employer's decision
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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Personally, I'm glad she sued. The country is hypersensitive to this idiocy right now, and it's serving the needed purpose in these ridiculous times.

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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Personally, I'm glad she sued. The country is hypersensitive to this idiocy right now, and it's serving the needed purpose in these ridiculous times.

    We should be clear, although it may be Ms. Khan suing as well, this story says that Holder's Justice Dept are the ones bringing the case.

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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    We should be clear, although it may be Ms. Khan suing as well, this story says that Holder's Justice Dept are the ones bringing the case.

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    Even better. So the guy that dismissed the black panther case, and tried to move the KSM trial to ground zero, is the same guy that is defending this nonsense?

    For those that don't already have the picture in the frame, this should do it.

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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Even better. So the guy that dismissed the black panther case, and tried to move the KSM trial to ground zero, is the same guy that is defending this nonsense?

    For those that don't already have the picture in the frame, this should do it.

    Absolutely, that was what caught my eye.

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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I think the issue will be whether she was denied the leave purely based on the subject of her request. Whereas if she had requested the leave for something else, would she have been granted it... I highly doubt any school board would be dumb enough to ramp up the religious tension here but she's a teacher, and in order for a school to provide consistency of teaching to the students, having a teacher disappear for 3 weeks never helps.
    I think a comparable situation would be having a teacher on unpaid leave for 3 weeks to volunteer in Haiti in the wake of a disaster. If you allow one, you should probably allow the other. If not, then there is no reason that companies should accomodate this.

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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    she has the rest of her life to make the pilgrimage
    the employer needs to accomplish its mission
    it appears her being unavailable would make achieving that mission more difficult
    the employer has a legitimate basis not to authorize her request for three weeks of unpaid leave

    the employer is screwed if it can be shown other teachers are being provide extended leave for non-essential activities. if that can be found, the the lady may have a valid case. otherwise she must abide by the employer's decision
    very well stated.

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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I think a comparable situation would be having a teacher on unpaid leave for 3 weeks to volunteer in Haiti in the wake of a disaster. If you allow one, you should probably allow the other. If not, then there is no reason that companies should accomodate this.

    I think a more comparable situation would be that Catholics be allowed 40 days off for Lent. Would that be acceptable?


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