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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I'm not "anti-Christian". The Gospel of John suggests that 14 Nisan was the day of Jesus's execution. Outside of the Roman province of Asia, 14 Nisan was the Preparation Day for the seven-day Feast of Unleavened Bread that begins on Nisan 15, now also called Passover.

    Dies Natalis Solis Invicti means "the birthday of the unconquered sun". John Chrysostom commented on the connection: "They call it the 'Birthday of the Unconquered'. Who indeed is so unconquered as Our Lord . . .?"

    It is generally accepted that Jesus was not born on Dec. 25. It may not have been chosen to "compete" with Pagan holidays or even Jewish holidays. Most likely it was because the Church saw a discrepancy because of Mary being visited by Gabreil in the sixth month after John the Baptist's conception which was considered to be around Autumnal Equinox, placing his birth around Summer Solstice. I've seen different thoughts on Jesus's actual birthday that contradicts this. May 20, April 19, or April 20 would render this scripture to be fallable. While the Church merely chose Dec. 25 for the celebration of Jesus's birth, it still seems arbirtrary to me. Sure, Jewish tradition often celebrates births and deaths (beginnings and endings) and this was held over from that tradition, most people don't believe that the Annunciation is the accurate time that Jesus was conceived.

    So you speak for "most people" of faith then? Or, is that "most people", people that are like minded with your opinion?


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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

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    So you speak for "most people" of faith then? Or, is that "most people", people that are like minded with your opinion?


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    Go get a calender and do the math yourself.
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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

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    Just can't let Christianity have its religion can we?...

    If this were a Muslim holiday we were talking about....Oh wait...it is....


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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

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    Go get a calender and do the math yourself.

    why does it matter, Don't Christians have the right to worship on whatever day they want? Or is that just every other religion real or fake as long as it isn't Christianity?


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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Repeating history to dispel someone trying to be revisionist is being anti-Christian?

    I am sure people smarter than both of us has been debating this longer than we have, why should I believe anyone in here spouting an opinion that is put forth with prejudice?


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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I am sure people smarter than both of us has been debating this longer than we have, why should I believe anyone in here spouting an opinion that is put forth with prejudice?

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    What are you going on about? I have no problem with Christianity and I'd correct anyone who tried to re-write history to make their lot sound better.
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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

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    why does it matter, Don't Christians have the right to worship on whatever day they want?
    Of course they can celebrate it whenever they want. How on earth did you get the impression that I thought they couldn't?

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    Or is that just every other religion real or fake as long as it isn't Christianity?


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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Alright, a great deal of Christian thought and imagery is based off of older pagan ideas. Our modern word "Easter" comes from an Old English word used to describe a time of celebration to Eostre, an Anglo-Saxon goddess. We still have the Germanic form of the word around as one of the Sabbats in some forms of modern Paganism, Ostara. This was a time of fertility, birth, and renewal. Rabbits were a symbol of fertility because of their ability to breed prodigiously and eggs were a symbol of new life. Easter is a pagan invention, like it or not.
    And so the English word for the holiday, for the Anglo-centric like yourself, governs the origins of the holiday? Sorry, it is older than the English language is. Look at languages like French and Spanish and you will see that the name of the holiday derives from the word for PASSOVER... shesh... the linguistically challenged strike again...
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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    And so the English word for the holiday, for the Anglo-centric like yourself, governs the origins of the holiday?
    No, but the ideas contained in what we now consider Easter ARE still very pagan. We use the Anglo-Saxon word for it still which gives you an idea of the roots of the holiday. And I really hate the word Anglo-Centric, it's a bs word that means absolutely nothing. Talking about something that IS Anglo-Saxon in origin is not being "Anglo-Centric"

    Sorry, it is older than the English language is. Look at languages like French and Spanish and you will see that the name of the holiday derives from the word for PASSOVER... shesh... the linguistically challenged strike again...
    Ok, we arent talking about Romance languages. A great deal of modern English is Germanic and Anglo-Saxon in origin, including the word for the April holiday known as "Easter." The concept of Easter is different in different places, many of the Romance languages got the word from Latin and they had the more Semitic view of Easter. We, however, use the Anglo-Saxon "Easter" and consequently the Easter that we in the US celebrate is much more pagan in origin and practice.
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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post


    Go get a calender and do the math yourself.
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