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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    The weird thing about this is that you cannot just pack up your bags and travel to Saudi Arabia for Hajj. There are logistical issues (e.g. there's a **** ton of Muslims in this world) that makes it Saudi policy to limit Hajj participants. She would have to "apply" for it first... they only allot a certain amount from each country per year.
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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

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    Which seems to be right about the time of the Vernal equinox.

    Tell me, why do Armenians celebrate Christmas on January 6th?
    Armenia used a different calendar...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Armenia used a different calendar...
    Russian Orthodox uses the Julian Calendar which their "Dec. 25" is the Gregorian Jan. 7.

    I believe the Armenian Apostolic Church has always used January 6. It was the Catholic Church that chose Winter Solstice according to the Roman Calendar. Also, the gap in calendars didn't occur until 1582.
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    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Russian Orthodox uses the Julian Calendar which their "Dec. 25" is the Gregorian Jan. 7.

    I believe the Armenian Apostolic Church has always used January 6. It was the Catholic Church that chose Winter Solstice according to the Roman Calendar. Also, the gap in calendars didn't occur until 1582.
    The winter solstice is Dec. 21/22, not Dec. 25. Christmas is exactly nine months after the Annunciation, which is associated with Passover...
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    [QUOTE=Hatuey;1059170033]Not only is that false it's illogical. For Christianity to have actually spread into Gaul during the Pax Romana the Romans would have had to stop crucifying and killing Christians during that period. Christianity was spread to France, Spain and England at the edge of a sword . You either converted or you were chopped down.

    Gaul was already in the process of Christianization, like most of the Roman Empire even prior to the end of official persecution in the early 4th century. Christianity dates back to the SECOND century in Gaul despite the persecution. Lyon and Marseilles were early Christian centers in Gaul. There was a well kown persecution of Christians in Lyon in the late second century. Please tell me how the persecution could have occurred had there not been Christians there?

    Furthermore, Gaul remained Roman well into the 5th century. By this time, Christianity was not only the official religion of the empire, but large parts of the empire, including the province of Gaul, had large Christian populations. Christianity would remain the official religion of the empire until its fall in 1453 and would remain present in Gaul even after it no longer remained a Roman province in the late fifth century.

    Spain as well, converted to Christianity as a part of the Roman Empire.

    No. I have actually argued quite the opposite on several occasions. Religion on average has been spread through violence.
    Fine, then. Clearly, for the most part, Islam was spread by the sword, and while there are unfortunate instances where Christianity as spread by force, most of the early spread of the faith, quite unlike Islam, was peaceful ... and actually, it was CHRISTIANS at the receiving end of most of the violence in the early centuries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The winter solstice is Dec. 21/22, not Dec. 25. Christmas is exactly nine months after the Annunciation, which is associated with Passover...
    Sure, in the current Gregorian calender it is Dec. 21/22. But the Roman calender way back when had March 25th as the Vernal Equinox. This is why they skipped 10 days in 1582. An actual year is approximately 365.2435 days, not 365.25 days. This was done to correct what day the Vernal Equinox was every year. It is believed by some religious scholars that the first day of the earth was Vernal Equinox. Passover doesn't go by a date but by other methods, like Thanksgiving is. The Annunciation will be celebrated at a different time if it interferes with Easter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Sure, in the current Gregorian calender it is Dec. 21/22. But the Roman calender way back when had March 25th as the Vernal Equinox. This is why they skipped 10 days in 1582. An actual year is approximately 365.2435 days, not 365.25 days. This was done to correct what day the Vernal Equinox was every year. It is believed by some religious scholars that the first day of the earth was Vernal Equinox. Passover doesn't go by a date but by other methods, like Thanksgiving is. The Annunciation will be celebrated at a different time if it interferes with Easter.
    The date of the Annunciation of based on the Hebrew date for Passover with the date 14 Nisan translated to be March 25 in Church tradition. Also, the feast of the Annunciation was celebrated by early Christians even before Christmas was. Also, like Passover, Easter is determined by other methods. It should be telling that in many other European languages, the word for "easter" is based on the word "passover". You, and other anti-Christians like you, like to make fictitious links with pagan holidays that don't exist.
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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    while there are unfortunate instances where Christianity as spread by force, most of the early spread of the faith, quite unlike Islam, was peaceful ... and actually, it was CHRISTIANS at the receiving end of most of the violence in the early centuries.
    Gods I hate getting dragged into this, but I feel compelled to reply to this. Christianity was spread like any other belief; some of it through peaceful conversion, some through extreme violence. There were plenty of rulers who massacred whole settlements because they didnt share the same belief, regardless of what that belief was.

    While saying that Christians were subject to violence is true, to say they received MOST of the violence is not. As awesome a story as it makes, there is no solid evidence for more than a handful of Christians being fed to lions in Rome.


    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The date of the Annunciation of based on the Hebrew date for Passover with the date 14 Nisan translated to be March 25 in Church tradition. Also, the feast of the Annunciation was celebrated by early Christians even before Christmas was. Also, like Passover, Easter is determined by other methods. It should be telling that in many other European languages, the word for "easter" is based on the word "passover". You, and other anti-Christians like you, like to make fictitious links with pagan holidays that don't exist.
    Alright, a great deal of Christian thought and imagery is based off of older pagan ideas. Our modern word "Easter" comes from an Old English word used to describe a time of celebration to Eostre, an Anglo-Saxon goddess. We still have the Germanic form of the word around as one of the Sabbats in some forms of modern Paganism, Ostara. This was a time of fertility, birth, and renewal. Rabbits were a symbol of fertility because of their ability to breed prodigiously and eggs were a symbol of new life. Easter is a pagan invention, like it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Alright, a great deal of Christian thought and imagery is based off of older pagan ideas. Our modern word "Easter" comes from an Old English word used to describe a time of celebration to Eostre, an Anglo-Saxon goddess. We still have the Germanic form of the word around as one of the Sabbats in some forms of modern Paganism, Ostara. This was a time of fertility, birth, and renewal. Rabbits were a symbol of fertility because of their ability to breed prodigiously and eggs were a symbol of new life. Easter is a pagan invention, like it or not.

    Just can't let Christianity have its religion can we?...

    The New Testament teaches that the resurrection of Jesus, which Easter celebrates, is a foundation of the Christian faith.[10] The resurrection established Jesus as the powerful Son of God[11] and is cited as proof that God will judge the world in righteousness.[12] God has given Christians "a new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead".[13] Christians, through faith in the working of God[14] are spiritually resurrected with Jesus so that they may walk in a new way of life.[15]
    Easter is linked to the Passover and Exodus from Egypt recorded in the Old Testament through the Last Supper and crucifixion that preceded the resurrection. According to the New Testament, Jesus gave the Passover meal a new meaning, as he prepared himself and his disciples for his death in the upper room during the Last Supper. He identified the loaf of bread and cup of wine as symbolizing his body soon to be sacrificed and his blood soon to be shed. 1 Corinthians 5:7 states, "Get rid of the old yeast that you may be a new batch without yeast—as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed"; this refers to the Passover requirement to have no yeast in the house and to the allegory of Jesus as the Paschal lamb.[16]

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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The date of the Annunciation of based on the Hebrew date for Passover with the date 14 Nisan translated to be March 25 in Church tradition. Also, the feast of the Annunciation was celebrated by early Christians even before Christmas was. Also, like Passover, Easter is determined by other methods. It should be telling that in many other European languages, the word for "easter" is based on the word "passover". You, and other anti-Christians like you, like to make fictitious links with pagan holidays that don't exist.
    I'm not "anti-Christian". The Gospel of John suggests that 14 Nisan was the day of Jesus's execution. Outside of the Roman province of Asia, 14 Nisan was the Preparation Day for the seven-day Feast of Unleavened Bread that begins on Nisan 15, now also called Passover.

    Dies Natalis Solis Invicti means "the birthday of the unconquered sun". John Chrysostom commented on the connection: "They call it the 'Birthday of the Unconquered'. Who indeed is so unconquered as Our Lord . . .?"

    It is generally accepted that Jesus was not born on Dec. 25. It may not have been chosen to "compete" with Pagan holidays or even Jewish holidays. Most likely it was because the Church saw a discrepancy because of Mary being visited by Gabreil in the sixth month after John the Baptist's conception which was considered to be around Autumnal Equinox, placing his birth around Summer Solstice. I've seen different thoughts on Jesus's actual birthday that contradicts this. May 20, April 19, or April 20 would render this scripture to be fallable. While the Church merely chose Dec. 25 for the celebration of Jesus's birth, it still seems arbirtrary to me. Sure, Jewish tradition often celebrates births and deaths (beginnings and endings) and this was held over from that tradition, most people don't believe that the Annunciation is the accurate time that Jesus was conceived.
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