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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

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    Yes, that's clearly what I said...

    You said they did away with the requirement to kiss the Hajr Aswad. I corrected you by stating that was never a requirement. How you equated that with being able to do whatever you want during Hajj is beyond me.
    so it was NEVER a requirement...they just did it for hundreds of years for the hell of it......
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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

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    so it was NEVER a requirement...they just did it for hundreds of years for the hell of it......
    No, it was never a requirement. They do it because Muhammad did it once and some consider it Sunnah. It has never been obligatory to kiss the stone.

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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    No, it was never a requirement. They do it because Muhammad did it once and some consider it Sunnah. It has never been obligatory to kiss the stone.
    just like they use the same date....wait for it....because Muhammad did it once.
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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    just like they use the same date....wait for it....because Muhammad did it once.
    Umm, no. It's the Qur'an. Why do you insist on spouting ignorant statements? Is it because you have no clue what you are talking about?

    Hajj shall be observed in the specified months. Whoever sets out to observe Hajj shall refrain from sexual intercourse, misconduct, and arguments throughout Hajj. Whatever good you do, GOD is fully aware thereof. As you prepare your provisions for the journey, the best provision is righteousness. You shall observe Me, O you who possess intelligence. Qur'an 2:197

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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    Umm, no. It's the Qur'an. Why do you insist on spouting ignorant statements? Is it because you have no clue what you are talking about?

    Hajj shall be observed in the specified months. Whoever sets out to observe Hajj shall refrain from sexual intercourse, misconduct, and arguments throughout Hajj. Whatever good you do, GOD is fully aware thereof. As you prepare your provisions for the journey, the best provision is righteousness. You shall observe Me, O you who possess intelligence. Qur'an 2:197
    ah...so because Muhammad wrote it down once... I get it now...
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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    ah...so because Muhammad wrote it down once... I get it now...
    If you're going to be obtuse and disingenuous, then you're obviously not interested in any form of constructive discussion.

    Look at what lengths you'll go to avoid realizing the obvious. You were wrong when you stated Muslims were required to kiss the black stone. Get over it.

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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    If you're going to be obtuse and disingenuous, then you're obviously not interested in any form of constructive discussion.

    Look at what lengths you'll go to avoid realizing the obvious. You were wrong when you stated Muslims were required to kiss the black stone. Get over it.
    and you can't admit that the whole thing is arbitrary based solely on dates that Muhammad pulled out of his ass. the only reason the dates are relevent is because Muhammad decided at random that those should be the dates. unless you can point me to any proof where Allah came down and told Muhammad "thou shalt hajj on ...."
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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and you can't admit that the whole thing is arbitrary based solely on dates that Muhammad pulled out of his ass. the only reason the dates are relevent is because Muhammad decided at random that those should be the dates. unless you can point me to any proof where Allah came down and told Muhammad "thou shalt hajj on ...."
    It's not like that's unique to Islam. Christianity usurped pagan days of celebration to encourage others to convert. It's pretty arbitrary in that it's not based on anything theological. Easter doesn't line up with Christ's execution, Christmas doesn't line up with Christ's birth, etc. And the bible itself is a collection of random and arbitrary books pieced together by the Church. I don't know why one can attack the arbitrary nature of one religion without recognizing the arbitrary nature of other established religions
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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and you can't admit that the whole thing is arbitrary based solely on dates that Muhammad pulled out of his ass. the only reason the dates are relevent is because Muhammad decided at random that those should be the dates. unless you can point me to any proof where Allah came down and told Muhammad "thou shalt hajj on ...."
    With that sentiment, Christmas Day can be changed to another day. Same with Easter. Hanukkah can be moved to a different eight days.

    What you are asserting should happen (her doing Hajj on a different date) is impossible and ridiculous.

    Either way, you are still failing to admit (quite pathetic) that you were wrong in your initial statement. This is something that you kept bringing up for 10+ pages, and even when thoroughly refuted, you look for some tangent to rebound your asinine argument off.

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    Re: Muslim woman teacher sues U.S. school after being denied three weeks unpaid leave

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's not like that's unique to Islam. Christianity usurped pagan days of celebration to encourage others to convert. It's pretty arbitrary in that it's not based on anything theological. Easter doesn't line up with Christ's execution, Christmas doesn't line up with Christ's birth, etc. And the bible itself is a collection of random and arbitrary books pieced together by the Church. I don't know why one can attack the arbitrary nature of one religion without recognizing the arbitrary nature of other established religions
    dude, I celebrated christmas 09 this June 10. "they" are the ones making such a big freaking deal out of it. and it really doesn't matter because this lady had other options available to her where she still could've gone during the "required" timeframe. she chose not to use them in order to make a statement...IMHO
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