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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wait a minute, wasn't it people like you that were saying that the repubs weren't offering any ideas during the debate, when in reality they were being shut out of the process by authoritarian liberal thugs?


    hmmmm...Your spin is entertaining.


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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude
    Puh-lease....she didn't even know the first Amendment was part of the Constitution.
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Actually her question is right on if you actually listen to more than the likes of Olberman, Maddow, and Schultz....Or is it Malloy these days?


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    If you want to get 'technical', the 1st amendment was not part of the original Constitution. It was part of the Bill of Rights... it was an 'amendment' to the original Constitution.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    True, But repealing the bill is #1 in Jan. They are going to put it to a vote (they will have the votes) Then they will take to Obama (he'll veto)
    Then they are going to start trying to repeal, defund parts of it.
    I don't know if it's possible but would be nice if they could work on building a new one as they are dissecting the other one.
    I don't want a new plan.
    From the ashes.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    If you're talking about O'donnell, you're wrong. Just because she tried to do a gotcha and it backfired, doesn't mean she doesn't know the constitution.
    Not just her, but it certainly would fit her. And if it was a gotcha, it worked well. She clearly didn't know the consititution. but, it wasn't just her.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Absolutely, and if you really look at the question that she was posing to the Socialist Coons, she was correct, and Coons was 100% wrong.


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    You're free to support that, but there was more there than what Coons was asked. She too was asked a question or three, and could not identify any constitutional point. So, don't limit yourself so much when looking at it.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    This may mean the whole law will have to be thrown out. Obama will now have to work with the GOP on healthcare.
    Hopefully helping government get their ****ing fingers out of it. But we know that won't be the case.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Hopefully helping government get their ****ing fingers out of it. But we know that won't be the case.

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    And if nothing happens, we end where we are, going down a road that cannot continue. Always good to see someone support the unsupportable.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You're free to support that, but there was more there than what Coons was asked. She too was asked a question or three, and could not identify any constitutional point. So, don't limit yourself so much when looking at it.

    don't shift the goal post on me Joe, You made a statement about the question she asked Coons, and that is what I was talking about. Now you want to come back and instead of probing where you're wrong on your point you want to broaden the original point to hide the fact that O'donell was correct, and the Socialist Coons was exposed by her question.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    excellent; let us hope that the ruling stands and the SCOTUS reinforces what it ruled in Lopez: that there is a limit to Congress' authority under the Commerce Clause.


    remove the mandate and Obamacare falls apart; the vast majority of Americans will simply refuse to sign up for insurance-that-isn't-insurance; and instead move to better plans.

    now if only we could equalize the tax treatment of individual and corporate purchasers...

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    excellent; let us hope that the ruling stands and the SCOTUS reinforces what it ruled in Lopez: that there is a limit to Congress' authority under the Commerce Clause.


    remove the mandate and Obamacare falls apart; the vast majority of Americans will simply refuse to sign up for insurance-that-isn't-insurance; and instead move to better plans.

    now if only we could equalize the tax treatment of individual and corporate purchasers...

    How's it going Will?

    I agree, on the tax thing I would love to see a flat tax and be done with it.

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