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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    So they knew their bill was unconsitutional in the first place?

    They could've saved us all a lot of time and trouble then.
    No, they simply expected a rocky road.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    So they knew their bill was unconsitutional in the first place?

    They could've saved us all a lot of time and trouble then.
    Well yes and no. They knew it was unconstitutional but didn't care. With people like Kagan on the SCOTUS they think they can get away with it.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Well yes and no. They knew it was unconstitutional but didn't care. With people like Kagan on the SCOTUS they think they can get away with it.
    Keep telling yourself that.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It's the disconnect I think many miss. You have to have a way to make up for the cost to insurance companies for the provisions that most like. As noted before, the public option would have been a better solution, but people opposed that as well. There is a disconnect.
    Ultimately, we either need both or we need neither. Having one without the other is a recipe for disaster.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Ultimately, we either need both or we need neither. Having one without the other is a recipe for disaster.
    I agree. . . . . . . .

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It's the disconnect I think many miss. You have to have a way to make up for the cost to insurance companies for the provisions that most like. As noted before, the public option would have been a better solution, but people opposed that as well. There is a disconnect.
    Is it right to force American citizens to purchase a product because the government says you must, or be fined or possibly serve jail time?

    States have laws that require you to buy auto insurance, if you choose to drive your car.
    The health insurance you have to buy because you breath and you have no choice in that matter.
    I think they have that mandate in Mass. (which it's failing) but maybe they can do that because it's a state mandate.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Keep telling yourself that.

    "We'll have to pass the bill, before we can see what is in the bill...." -Nancy Pelosi


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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Keep telling yourself that.
    I watched the HC fiasco.
    One thing I've learned from C-Span is that our legislaters give very little time to worrying about if something is Constitutional. They swear to uphold the constitution but then they just leave that up to the SCOTUS. The republicans have promised to change that. Each bill will have to show that it is indeed constitutional before voted on.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    "We'll have to pass the bill, before we can see what is in the bill...." -Nancy Pelosi


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    That statement was a response to the disinformation being broadcast about the pending legislation by various pundits.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I watched the HC fiasco.
    One thing I've learned from C-Span is that our legislaters give very little time to worrying about if something is Constitutional. They swear to uphold the constitution but then they just leave that up to the SCOTUS. The republicans have promised to change that. Each bill will have to show that it is indeed constitutional before voted on.
    Well, we did learn tea party cadidates didn't actually know the consititution, but I suspect our leaders give it a little more thouight than you give them credit for.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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