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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I read an comprehen just fine. They don't have to write laws, or know about writing laws to know the law. You're making a meaningless distinction and somehow think it profound. It isn't.
    Obviously it isn't, since you still don't even comprehend what I was saying. DO POLITICIANS WRITE OUR LAWS ???? DO WE VOTE POLITICIANS INTO AND OUT OF OFFICE ???

    Try thinking for a change rather than popping off with your usual hyper partisan response.


    Again, while writing a law takes skill, there is little to sugegst those we elect are skilled at doing so. For example, would you argue that Al Franken is likely to know much about writing laws? You start with a faulty premise, and ingore that judges understand LAW. And I suspect many know more about writing them than some in congress do.
    Thanks for proving my point !!

    Can you tell me how many?
    Your the one claiming they don't know anything about the ruling or the law, so it's up to you to prove they don't.

    I live here, and I talk daily to people who voted against them and I have yet to meet one who has read the ruling. They can quote talking head idiots, but not one knows what the ruling said.

    Now, I assume some have read it. But I would be shocked if you could prove most did. What do you base your notion on?
    Sounds to me like you have ignorant friends. When I lived there, I was very impressed with their knowledge.

    By the way, aren't you the one always insisting on proof ? I hardly think that your daily discussions constitutes any type of proof that YOU would accept if the shoe was on the other foot.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Obviously it isn't, since you still don't even comprehend what I was saying. DO POLITICIANS WRITE OUR LAWS ???? DO WE VOTE POLITICIANS INTO AND OUT OF OFFICE ???

    Try thinking for a change rather than popping off with your usual hyper partisan response.
    Then you're making a really stupid point. Politicians represent us, which is why we vote on them. They are not always experts on law, and they soemtimes have their writings sent back to them by experts, the courts. So, two very different roles with two very different responsibilities, and who answer to very different standards. You're inarticluate point seems misguided, if not plain inacurate.



    Thanks for proving my point !!
    Speaking of comprehension difficulties.


    Your the one claiming they don't know anything about the ruling or the law, so it's up to you to prove they don't.
    Not really. You claimed Iowans know the law and the ruling. I sad I doubt it. I do doubt it. And I explaine dwhy.

    Sounds to me like you have ignorant friends. When I lived there, I was very impressed with their knowledge.

    By the way, aren't you the one always insisting on proof ? I hardly think that your daily discussions constitutes any type of proof that YOU would accept if the shoe was on the other foot.
    I didn't use the word friends. I said I talk to people. From all around the state. A good number of people, 20 to thirty at a time.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    For most pathetic congress in history will actually be the ones who voted for the Iraq war and the Patriot Act (without reading it, and yes I'm aware of Nancy's quote on Obamacare). Giving into popular demand instead of what was right. The patriot act is the single most vicious attack on the constitution.

    But hey, don't let me get in the way if your partisanship.

    Both Democrats and Republicans have screwed your nation down the river.
    Years from now, the Iraq War will go down as a necessary and strategically critical move by the U.S.

    It's a lot easier to keep that rogueish, disturbed, and dangerous third world region at bay from across the fence than halfway around the world.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Obviously it isn't, since you still don't even comprehend what I was saying. DO POLITICIANS WRITE OUR LAWS ???? DO WE VOTE POLITICIANS INTO AND OUT OF OFFICE ???

    Try thinking for a change rather than popping off with your usual hyper partisan response.
    Yes politicians write our laws. Yes we vote politicians into and out of office. Do either of these answers mean that they know history? Nope. Part of being a judge is also about knowing history. If you don't know the history of a law then you cannot uphold the intentions of the law. The same applies to our Constitution. No law maker is actually required to know our Constitution. A judge however must know it and know its history.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Years from now, the Iraq War will go down as a necessary and strategically critical move by the U.S.

    It's a lot easier to keep that rogueish, disturbed, and dangerous third world region at bay from across the fence than halfway around the world.
    Only if the world goes stupid.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Only if the world goes stupid.
    Well, your boy Clinton was all for it.

    This chapter is far from written. There's a reason that even Obama, of all people, won't withdraw the troops. Something tells me they know more than we do.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Well, your boy Clinton was all for it.

    This chapter is far from written. There's a reason that even Obama, of all people, won't withdraw the troops. Something tells me they know more than we do.
    First, he's not my boy. I voted for Dole.

    Second, Clinton didn't invade Iraq. Bush did.

    And if anything good comes from iraq, it will be because of iraqis and not the US. Our damage is real today. The future depends on the iraqis, and it would be dishonest to take credit for their work.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Then you're making a really stupid point. Politicians represent us, which is why we vote on them. They are not always experts on law, and they soemtimes have their writings sent back to them by experts, the courts. So, two very different roles with two very different responsibilities, and who answer to very different standards. You're inarticluate point seems misguided, if not plain inacurate.


    I didn't use the word friends. I said I talk to people. From all around the state. A good number of people, 20 to thirty at a time.
    Typical Boo.... One rule for you and the opposite for everyone else.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Typical Boo.... One rule for you and the opposite for everyone else.
    Sorry, no such rule is suggested.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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