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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Glad for the ruling but......
    This will not really be news till it reads, Supreme Court rules Obama Care unconstitutional.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    That's interesting.

    If we are going to force insurance companies to insure those with pre-existing conditions, we've GOT to have everybody in the plan. I don't know how healthcare can work without it.

    Although, an appeal to SCOTUS may change that opinion...
    This is the part of the plan that makes no sense.

    If I've got heart disease and need a transplant, then I sign an insurance policy, make a single $100 monthly payment, then get $250,000 worth of surgery and aftercare, how does that work for the insurance company?

    This is how you know for certain Obama wants to just do away with private insurance altogether. How can they possibly compete when they have to run like a business, but the government doesn't?
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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Glad for the ruling but......
    This will not really be news till it reads, Supreme Court rules Obama Care unconstitutional.
    The commerce clause is the problem. I do not see the SCOTUS saying this covered under that clause

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Glad for the ruling but......
    This will not really be news till it reads, Supreme Court rules Obama Care unconstitutional.
    True, But repealing the bill is #1 in Jan. They are going to put it to a vote (they will have the votes) Then they will take to Obama (he'll veto)
    Then they are going to start trying to repeal, defund parts of it.
    I don't know if it's possible but would be nice if they could work on building a new one as they are dissecting the other one.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    This is the part of the plan that makes no sense.

    If I've got heart disease and need a transplant, then I sign an insurance policy, make a single $100 monthly payment, then get $250,000 worth of surgery and aftercare, how does that work for the insurance company?

    This is how you know for certain Obama wants to just do away with private insurance altogether. How can they possibly compete when they have to run like a business, but the government doesn't?
    BINGO we got a winner! :-)
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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Looks like Obama care may not happen

    Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    A federal judge has ruled that part of President Obama's health care reform legislation is unconstitutional.
    Hopefully the supreme court rules the same way. Because it isn't over until the fat lady croaks.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Just noting from the OP:

    . . . and the White House expected to lose this round.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    That's interesting.

    If we are going to force insurance companies to insure those with pre-existing conditions, we've GOT to have everybody in the plan. I don't know how healthcare can work without it.

    Although, an appeal to SCOTUS may change that opinion...
    Yeah. This is very worrysome because without the provision that we all get insurance, its going to put the insurance companies in a very bad position, which in the end will hurt everyone.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Just noting from the OP:

    . . . and the White House expected to lose this round.
    So they knew their bill was unconsitutional in the first place?

    They could've saved us all a lot of time and trouble then.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Yeah. This is very worrysome because without the provision that we all get insurance, its going to put the insurance companies in a very bad position, which in the end will hurt everyone.
    It's the disconnect I think many miss. You have to have a way to make up for the cost to insurance companies for the provisions that most like. As noted before, the public option would have been a better solution, but people opposed that as well. There is a disconnect.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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