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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I wish those who complain of activist judges would remember that, but there is some objectivity to it as well, and when judge after judge after judge rules the same way, we have to conclude that there is something to the legal point. And what the people are doing in iowa is really saying screw the law. That's not a positive development.
    No, actually they are saying screw the judges that rule against their personal beliefs.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    No, actually they are saying screw the judges that rule against their personal beliefs.
    So, the law has to be ignored if it doesn't match their personal beliefs? We don't need judges then. We can just take a poll.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    So, the law has to be ignored if it doesn't match their personal beliefs? We don't need judges then. We can just take a poll.
    Who's ignoring a law ?? The law in Iowa still stands. The judges that made the law (I thought representatives were supposed to make law) are no longer in business.

    Do you believe the people don't have the right to vote people in or out of office that they disagree with??? In case you forgot, this is still a representative democracy.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    The founding fathers had no idea that one day the Constitution would one day be used to decide if Jefferson could marry Washington.

    They did, as genius as they were, know that it would solve the inequities of slavery eventually.

    Gay marriage might as well have been UFOs or Sasquatch.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The founding fathers had no idea that one day the Constitution would one day be used to decide if Jefferson could marry Washington.

    They did, as genius as they were, know that it would solve the inequities of slavery eventually.

    Gay marriage might as well have been UFOs or Sasquatch.
    So? They had no idea there would planes either, or nuclear bombs. Life doesn't stand still. Nor are we obligated to hold ALL the same beliefs they held. Some actually believed in slavery, remember? Only some saw that it would one day end.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

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    Who's ignoring a law ?? The law in Iowa still stands. The judges that made the law (I thought representatives were supposed to make law) are no longer in business.

    Do you believe the people don't have the right to vote people in or out of office that they disagree with??? In case you forgot, this is still a representative democracy.
    See, you have it wrong. Judges didn't make the law. They ruled on the law. The same way judge after judge has ruled across the United States.

    And people vote for representatives. That is where their constitutional power resides. Judges are not suppose to be voted on by popular opinion. This sends the wrong message, that the law isn't important, popular opinion is. And it seems like a good idea when it favors your position, but not so good when it doesn't.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    “Virginia’s suit is based on a state statute that is not applicable nationwide, and the department believes this case should follow the ordinary course of allowing the courts of appeals to hear it first so the issues and arguments can be fully developed before the Supreme Court decides whether to consider it. As Judge Hudson noted in denying an injunction, the individual responsibility provision does not go into effect until 2014, so there is more than sufficient time for the courts to consider this case in their normal course of business.” — a Justice Department spokeswoman¹

    As Boo Radley said, we'll just have to stay tuned. (White hybrid popcorn is the best.)
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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    See, you have it wrong. Judges didn't make the law. They ruled on the law. The same way judge after judge has ruled across the United States.

    And people vote for representatives. That is where their constitutional power resides. Judges are not suppose to be voted on by popular opinion. This sends the wrong message, that the law isn't important, popular opinion is. And it seems like a good idea when it favors your position, but not so good when it doesn't.
    See, there you have it wrong. Judges are voted into (and out) of office in large portions of the country.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Looks like Obama care may not happen

    Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    A federal judge has ruled that part of President Obama's health care reform legislation is unconstitutional.
    OMG, it's a judicial activist miracle...!!

    Praise be!

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    OMG, it's a judicial activist miracle...!!

    Praise be!
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