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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    and pray tell me how steeply versed are you in the implications of the doctrine of judicial supremacy?
    Liberals are all about judicial supremacy. It's just about the only way they can get their agenda pushed through the system.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Maggie, there was so much bad stuff in that bill we just need to start over.
    I entirely agree.

    Although it can be appealed at the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals, and then SCOTUS, so it's not over yet.

    Read the ruling, he specifically rules out the mandate as unconstitutional. That mandate, damn it :P

    Here's one person who's glad about this *points at self* The healthcare reform bill (called "Obamacare" for some reason) was the biggest obstacle to substantial healthcare reform that actually fixes the fundamental flaw. Obama did a better job of stopping it than any Republican Congress in 40 years lol.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    we're not going to repeal it, we're going to repeal major portions of it

    like 1099's and the mandate

    and both parties are gonna have to do something about the states, you know, california, new york, illinois...

    (are you aware of governor bredesen's views, on behalf of the entire conference? why, even diane feinstein in my home state is eagerly on board)

    sebelius has already done a great deal about repealing the requirement of 750K of coverage---she EXEMPTS anyone, apparently, who asks out

    we'll be sure, tho, to keep the pre existing protections, the 26 year old dependents---they're necessary and popular

    we will do what the american people are overwhelmingly demanding we do

    stay tuned
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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Gives one pause, don't it?

    Excerpted from “Henry Hudson, Judge In Health Care Lawsuit, Has Financial Ties To Attorney General Bringing The Case” By Sam Stein, The Huffington Post, First Posted: 07-30-10 01:16 PM , Updated: 09-29-10 05:12 AM
    The federal judge set to issue one of the first decisions on the Obama administration's health care law has financial ties to both the attorney general who is challenging the law and to a powerhouse conservative law firm whose clients include prominent Republican officials and critics of reform. …
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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Gives one pause, don't it?
    Wait, so you're suggesting they found a judge that was more likely to support them to judge the case?

    What a novel concept!
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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Says the guy who guaranteed it wasn't going to pass in the first place.
    Wow, I'm impressed. You actually took each of his points from the post you quoted and destroyed them one by one.....

    How about addressing his points rather than bringing up something from months ago. I'm sure you never had a prediction fall through either, right ???

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I'm not making it complicated. I'm just stating fact of which you countered with congressional appropriations which isn't a repeal but rather a stalling tactic.

    If Republicans want to repeal the health reform law then repeal it! But they'd better come up with something far better than what they'd tear down or they're likely to regret their action should things ever come to that.
    no, it's not a stalling tactic, it's called having the numbers to do whatever you want to do.
    surely following Obabma over the last two years you understand that mindset.

    So now,
    it's our turn.
    And before you get upset over the notion of not working "together",
    I repeat, just recall the last two years of in your face, my way or the highway,
    and feel our pain.

    NO FUNDING = NO PLAN
    It's simple, and it's politics , there wont be an appropriations committee that exists that wont have republican majority.
    And the republicans are simply listening to the majority, another forgotten entity in America over the last 2 years.

    Its called Democracy

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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Gives one pause, don't it?

    Ah Chappy, disingenuous as always.....


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    Re: Health Care Reform Provision Is Unconstitutional, Federal Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Gives one pause, don't it?
    Its nice to see you are consistent. Im glad that you are as concerned about an individual who began investing in a firm 13 years ago as you were about a homosexual judge ruling on if homosexual marriage laws were constitutional.

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