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Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

UtahBill said:
Yummy looking....
Except for the soda, what about that meal is unhealthy? There are veggies, dairy, protein, carbohydrates in the bun, potatoes fried in vegetable oil, etc. None of the portrayed foods are unhealthy by themselves.
The only thing bad is the calorie content, a portion control issue, so throw out one meat patty, half the fries,exclude mayonaisse, and it is a fairly balanced meal.
Portion control, aka quantity, is a bigger issue than the quality of the foods.
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1 big mac, = 540 calories 1 large fry= 500 calories 1 large coke 32 oz 310 calories
grand total

1350 calories
54 G fat
14 g saturated fat
1410 grams sodium
194 g carbohydrates
10 g fiber
30 g protein

The real question is, whats healthy about it? If you think that slice of processed cheese counts as dairy, I think you're losing it a little my old friend :mrgreen:
 
Jetboogieman said:
1 big mac, = 540 calories 1 large fry= 500 calories 1 large coke 32 oz 310 calories
grand total

1350 calories
54 G fat
14 g saturated fat
1410 grams sodium
194 g carbohydrates
10 g fiber
30 g protein

The real question is, whats healthy about it? If you think that slice of processed cheese counts as dairy, I think you're losing it a little my old friend :mrgreen:
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It's not what you eat, as much as it is how much you eat.

Twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pounds - CNN.com

I'm on the Walton and Johnson Diet: eat less, move around more.
 
Jetboogieman said:
1 big mac, = 540 calories 1 large fry= 500 calories 1 large coke 32 oz 310 calories
grand total

1350 calories
54 G fat
14 g saturated fat
1410 grams sodium
194 g carbohydrates
10 g fiber
30 g protein

The real question is, whats healthy about it? If you think that slice of processed cheese counts as dairy, I think you're losing it a little my old friend :mrgreen:
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Holy crap! The fries are 500 calories? man o man......


j-mac
 
j-mac said:
Holy crap! The fries are 500 calories? man o man......


j-mac
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The scariest issue with alot of our food is the sodium content, the amount of salt we intake on a daily basis is a big contributor to coronary Heart disease.
 
j-mac said:
No, thank you. I think we can ramp this down and still have a reasonable conversation. Thanks for giving it a chance.

Well, there are a lot of 'what if's' in that paragraph, but we do already have a dept of children services that follows up on claims like this, in this case the original charges that were the catalyst of the story were found to be without merit.

Would you agree that there is a point were it is a step too far when speaking about the rights of the individual vs the power of the government?
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Well of course I agree to that. Like I said, I'm not advocating the government takes your kid if they're a little slow to lose their baby fat. While more than likely the controls we have in place work horribly, we can probably agree that the controls are reasonable in theory. Like in this case, a doctor decided the parents were endangering her health.

However, it doesn't address the overall issue of childhood obesity. I suppose to start, I have to ask if you even consider it an issue.

j-mac said:
You're right....They don't have to eat it, unless ofcourse you are too poor to make a lunch for them, then I guess their choice is to starve.

j-mac
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Or they can eat the salad that the government is providing for them for free. It's not poison. I've counseled plenty of Marine wives on how to apply for WIC and not one of them complained that the government wasn't giving them twinkies. I might be a liberal, but beggars can't be choosers. If the kids dislike free, nutritious food that much, one of the parents better get a second job.
 
Jetboogieman said:
The scariest issue with alot of our food is the sodium content, the amount of salt we intake on a daily basis is a big contributor to coronary Heart disease.
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That's the only think I can't give up. I'll eat nine servings of veggies a day. I'll have red meat once a week and fish twice a week. But damn it I like my food salty! :mrgreen:
 
Kelzie said:
That's the only think I can't give up. I'll eat nine servings of veggies a day. I'll have red meat once a week and fish twice a week. But damn it I like my food salty! :mrgreen:
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Me too dude, I'm terrible, I'll even put salt on my ham sandwiches which already has a hefty sodium count lol Started puttin pepper on as well.

Honestly I think if I wasn't a green tea addict my diet would have killed me :2razz:
 
Kelzie said:
It's more then a little what you eat. Skinny does not equal healthy.
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Just like overweight doesn't equal unhealthy; but that's not the stance that the Liberals are going to take. Is it?

Did you read the article? This guy not only lost 27 pounds, but his bad cholesterol went down and his good cholesterol went up. His triglycerides went down by 39%. Is that healthy?
 
apdst said:
Just like overweight doesn't equal unhealthy; but that's not the stance that the Liberals are going to take. Is it?
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Actually it does, it puts strain on your organs. for example, there is a guy at my work who otherwise is healthy, but severely obese, and has to sleep with some kind of a breathing device because his weight weighs down on his lungs, making it harder to breathe, especially during sleep.
 
Kelzie said:
That's the only think I can't give up. I'll eat nine servings of veggies a day. I'll have red meat once a week and fish twice a week. But damn it I like my food salty! :mrgreen:
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unless you have high blood pressure, you don't have to worry about salt.
 
apdst said:
Just like overweight doesn't equal unhealthy; but that's not the stance that the Liberals are going to take. Is it?

Did you read the article? This guy not only lost 27 pounds, but his bad cholesterol went down and his good cholesterol went up. His triglycerides went down by 39%. Is that healthy?
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Well it's healthier, but losing weight alone will do that. He also took a multivitamin, still ate veggies, and limited his calories to 1800 a day. He also doesn't recommend his diet and I imagine most of the medical community wouldn't as well.

And for the record, I have known mildly overweight people that I've though of as healthier then some skinny people.
 
Kelzie said:
Well of course I agree to that. Like I said, I'm not advocating the government takes your kid if they're a little slow to lose their baby fat. While more than likely the controls we have in place work horribly, we can probably agree that the controls are reasonable in theory. Like in this case, a doctor decided the parents were endangering her health.
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And then found that wasn't the case.

However, it doesn't address the overall issue of childhood obesity. I suppose to start, I have to ask if you even consider it an issue.
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Ofcourse I see it all the time. Not to Anamarie's extent, but the reasons that this happens today have far deeper reasons for happening than just the simple rotten parents.

Or they can eat the salad that the government is providing for them for free. It's not poison. I've counseled plenty of Marine wives on how to apply for WIC and not one of them complained that the government wasn't giving them twinkies. I might be a liberal, but beggars can't be choosers. If the kids dislike free, nutritious food that much, one of the parents better get a second job.
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:lol: Well, you got me there. Look in the end I don't see a problem with better food in the schools, raising my children I used to shutter at the choices they were constantly offered, and wonder what the heck I was paying for when we chose to let them eat there. But I do think it vigilant to keep an eye on what exactly government is doing with our money, and with people like Cas Sunstein in office that believes that you can move people to government dependency with what he terms "nudging" them along, we owe it to the next generations to keep an eye on these people.


j-mac
 
Jetboogieman said:
Actually it does, it puts strain on your organs. for example, there is a guy at my work who otherwise is healthy, but severely obese, and has to sleep with some kind of a breathing device because his weight weighs down on his lungs, making it harder to breathe, especially during sleep.
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Then, skinny is healthy?
 
Kelzie said:
Well it's healthier, but losing weight alone will do that. He also took a multivitamin, still ate veggies, and limited his calories to 1800 a day. He also doesn't recommend his diet and I imagine most of the medical community wouldn't as well.

And for the record, I have known mildly overweight people that I've though of as healthier then some skinny people.
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Therein lies the secret.

Eat less and move around more.
 
Jetboogieman said:
No, but there's no health benefit to being fat dude.

There is such a thing as unhealthily skinny, especially if you're MALNUTRITIONED :2razz:
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I never said there was. Did I?
 
I think the biggest problem, is that there are more people doing this for a living

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and fewer people doing this for a living

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j-mac said:
And then found that wasn't the case.



Ofcourse I see it all the time. Not to Anamarie's extent, but the reasons that this happens today have far deeper reasons for happening than just the simple rotten parents.
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I'm deeply critical of today's parents. There's way too much parenting being done according to what's easiest. My mom made me eat my vegetables because it was the right way to raise me, not because it was easier. And I lived in such fear of her laws that I ate everything at school lunch, even the stuff I hated. Too many parents want to be liked by their children. The time for that is when they're out of your house. And it's not just nutritionally, I see it reflected in poor tests scores and (I hate to say it) rude behavior in public. So obviously I'm inclined to blame the parents, but I'm curious what other factors you think are involved.

j-mac said:
:lol: Well, you got me there. Look in the end I don't see a problem with better food in the schools, raising my children I used to shutter at the choices they were constantly offered, and wonder what the heck I was paying for when we chose to let them eat there. But I do think it vigilant to keep an eye on what exactly government is doing with our money, and with people like Cas Sunstein in office that believes that you can move people to government dependency with what he terms "nudging" them along, we owe it to the next generations to keep an eye on these people.


j-mac
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Keeping your eye on the government is great policy no matter what side of the fence you vote on.
 
j-mac said:
Would it be ok in your mind if the vending machines had healthier choices in them? Say instead of a can of soda, they had Juice, and water?

j-mac
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Boo Radley said:
it would be marginally better, as it would at least have some benefit, but no, it wouldn't solve or address the basic problem, a company explorting children for profit.
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A vending company providing healthier drink choices is 'exploiting children for profit'?
 
apdst said:
It's not what you eat, as much as it is how much you eat.

Twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pounds - CNN.com

I'm on the Walton and Johnson Diet: eat less, move around more.
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The REAL problem is that kids don't exercise, they sit on their posteriors watching TV (the same as their parents), play video games and the parents don't give a damn about "Health" period!!! Wait till the kids become adults and they will start drinking alcohol beverages just like their parents do also. Setting a "healthy" example starts in the home.
Look at the smoking going on and who permits it?? the government does. If the government was so concerned about every body's health they should ban tobacco and alcohol, but NO!!! They have to have "the tax money" from both of them.
This is hypocritical as hell.:giggle1:
 
Kelzie said:
Balanced except for the fact that it contains only protein and carbs. That sliver of salad hardly counts as a serving of veggies. Half the sandwich, no fried and a side salad and then you're talking.
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I once ordered a hamburger with mustard and tomato only....got bun, tomato, and mustard....
 
Jetboogieman said:
1 big mac, = 540 calories 1 large fry= 500 calories 1 large coke 32 oz 310 calories
grand total

1350 calories
54 G fat
14 g saturated fat
1410 grams sodium
194 g carbohydrates
10 g fiber
30 g protein

The real question is, whats healthy about it? If you think that slice of processed cheese counts as dairy, I think you're losing it a little my old friend :mrgreen:
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That is my story and I am sticking to it....
actually, I rarely get a hamburger, usually get chicken sandwich. We just got a Chick Filet here in Logan, that is my favorite.
 
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