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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That's nice to think, and I sure would like our reps to remember that, and not use it only when they find it convenient to their arguments of why they need to restrict my liberty, but the fact is, that when they get to DC they become the elite....Just you try and go visit a member in the leadership for a chat, and see how far you get.


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    They'll remember if we hold them accountable. But it would also help if we were a little more coherent. I was tlaking with a conservative the other day, for example, who wants all the benefits of the new health care bill, but none of the options for paying for them. What can a leader do with that message?

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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    They'll remember if we hold them accountable. But it would also help if we were a little more coherent. I was tlaking with a conservative the other day, for example, who wants all the benefits of the new health care bill, but none of the options for paying for them. What can a leader do with that message?

    Holding reps accountable is what happened this last election cycle, and demo's in some degree still haven't accepted that. In some cases there is downright denial.

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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Holding reps accountable is what happened this last election cycle, and demo's in some degree still haven't accepted that. In some cases there is downright denial.

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    In some cases, yes, that is what happened. But then there is the entire incoherent thing. I have linked the exit polls before. 1/3 think our leaders went too far. 1/3 think they didn't go far enough. and predictively, 1/3 think the government did just the rigth amount. Now that is information our leader can really use.

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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    In some cases, yes, that is what happened. But then there is the entire incoherent thing. I have linked the exit polls before. 1/3 think our leaders went too far. 1/3 think they didn't go far enough. and predictively, 1/3 think the government did just the rigth amount. Now that is information our leader can really use.
    Polls depend quite a bit on how questions are asked as to what answer you get from people, so I wouldn't really put an over abundance of trust that what you are using as "coming from the people" isn't a distorted message.


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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Legislation to feed more lunches and dinners to hungry children at school is about to become law.
    President Barack Obama will be accompanied by his wife, Michelle, as he signs the bill. The ceremony is scheduled to take place Monday at a District of Columbia elementary school.
    The $4.5 billion bill would expand free school meals for the low-income students and give the government the power to make them healthier. The government will decide what kinds of foods may be sold in vending machines, lunch lines and fundraisers during school hours.
    Supporters say the law is needed to stem rising health care costs because of growing childhood obesity and also to feed more hungry children in tough economic times. Some Republicans contend the measure is too expensive and an example of government overreach.


    Read more: President to sign child nutrition bill - Lowell Sun Online

    I guess the Republicans failed to stop it.
    No more fundraising from bake sales. Is big government going to also pay for things that the bakesales usually pay for? Or should they switch to apple and spinach sales?
    While I do not believe that the government should be telling me what to eat, when it comes to expanding "free school meals for the low-income students" I don't have a problem with that as I don't think that children, especially in the richest nation on earth, should go hungry.
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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Polls depend quite a bit on how questions are asked as to what answer you get from people, so I wouldn't really put an over abundance of trust that what you are using as "coming from the people" isn't a distorted message.


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    Yes, they do. But the question was pretty straightforward. And there is not a problem with poll questions. Most want elements like covering pre-existing conditions and covering children. Yet, oppose anyway to make that happen. A real disconnect with the electorate. and the country is real divided on whether the democrats went too far or not far enough, so a leader in congress has to more than bit confused as to what the people actually want.

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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, they do. But the question was pretty straightforward. And there is not a problem with poll questions. Most want elements like covering pre-existing conditions and covering children. Yet, oppose anyway to make that happen. A real disconnect with the electorate. and the country is real divided on whether the democrats went too far or not far enough, so a leader in congress has to more than bit confused as to what the people actually want.

    My feeling is that, this happens when the proposal is far too broad, and encompassing for people to grasp all that is in it.

    What would have been the problem with taking this health care overhaul in pieces? I think you would have had a much greater chance of getting more, than the dishonest way demo's went about it.

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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

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    Nothing always works, be it the government or the private sector. But often things do improve, or manage.
    Entitlements don't work and people will revolt if taken away when we can no longer afford them.
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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    feed the children all three meals, year round...check.

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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    feed the children all three meals, year round...check.

    Next...

    Free internet for all the "nappy headed children as a basic human right"
    (FCC Commissioner Mignon Clyburn, daughter of Congressman James Clyburn)
    Breitbart.tv Free Internet a Civil Right for ‘Every Nappy-Headed Child’
    WE do it for countless other children in numerous other countries - why not our own? (that's my liberal view)

    At the same time I want parents to actually take care of their own kids and be responsible with their spending - putting NEEDS before WANTS.
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