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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    God damn you guys....

    I'm going to Burger King ASAP.
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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, let me get this straight: we're spending $4.5 billion to keep poor kids from getting fat?

    I thought this bill was to prevent them from starving to death, in the street. That's how it was portrayed when the Republicans opposed the bill.
    Poor people are generally fat in America because guess what the cheapest places to eat out are? McDonalds and other fast food chains. Eating healthy while it being delicious is more expensive.
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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    I'm deeply critical of today's parents. There's way too much parenting being done according to what's easiest.
    I can't disagree, but I'd also be willing to bet that in the day when we were brought up, it only took one income to efficiently run, and fund the household. Today that just simply isn't the case. It takes two parents income to do that.

    My mom made me eat my vegetables because it was the right way to raise me, not because it was easier. And I lived in such fear of her laws that I ate everything at school lunch, even the stuff I hated.
    Yep, mine too. And to boot, she shopped for her veggies at the farmers market. Today we get processed bags of bulk, and frozen from the local Wal Mart. On a budget and all.

    Too many parents want to be liked by their children.
    Again no disagreement here. But that is not to say that all of today's parents are like this.

    The time for that is when they're out of your house. And it's not just nutritionally, I see it reflected in poor tests scores and (I hate to say it) rude behavior in public.
    Yes, that is a factor no doubt, but not the whole story. There are many contributors that play into scholastic testing, but for the rudeness among today's youth, that is a parental factor.

    So obviously I'm inclined to blame the parents, but I'm curious what other factors you think are involved.
    If I had to guess I'd bet you are a teacher? Am I close? But I think that overall society is expecting these kids to grow up too damned fast. both parents out of the house, discipline lacking, role models left to the streets. for starters.

    Keeping your eye on the government is great policy no matter what side of the fence you vote on.
    Agreed.


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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by WeAreReborn View Post
    Poor people are generally fat in America because guess what the cheapest places to eat out are? McDonalds and other fast food chains. Eating healthy while it being delicious is more expensive.
    You got that right.....America's poor are relegated many times to the processed meals section to make their budget stretch.


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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by WeAreReborn View Post
    Poor people are generally fat in America because guess what the cheapest places to eat out are? McDonalds and other fast food chains. Eating healthy while it being delicious is more expensive.
    It is, and there is no doubt about that. Sadly.

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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by WeAreReborn View Post
    Poor people are generally fat in America because guess what the cheapest places to eat out are? McDonalds and other fast food chains. Eating healthy while it being delicious is more expensive.
    Indeed. I think one of the best fixes for our nutritional system would be to subsidize produce instead of meat, dairy, corn and soy. Let the market take over then. When apples are a quarter each and a box of twinkies are $8.00, we might see some better choices being made.
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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Indeed. I think one of the best fixes for our nutritional system would be to subsidize produce instead of meat, dairy, corn and soy. Let the market take over then. When apples are a quarter each and a box of twinkies are $8.00, we might see some better choices being made.
    I just listen to a bunch of students earlier argue that nutriious food should be subsidized by taxes on unhealthy food. It was an interesting presentation.

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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crow View Post
    The REAL problem is that kids don't exercise, they sit on their posteriors watching TV (the same as their parents), play video games and the parents don't give a damn about "Health" period!!! Wait till the kids become adults and they will start drinking alcohol beverages just like their parents do also. Setting a "healthy" example starts in the home.
    Look at the smoking going on and who permits it?? the government does. If the government was so concerned about every body's health they should ban tobacco and alcohol, but NO!!! They have to have "the tax money" from both of them.
    This is hypocritical as hell.
    That displays the general stupidty of Liberalism. They want to tax the hell out of cigarettes so people will quit smoking, but then bitch when revenues go down and unemployment goes up and don't have a clue how to replace those lost tax dollars and jobs, when it happens.

    That defines Liberalism and is why I oppose it.

    This bill is a prime example. They piss and moan about the deficit and we need to raise taxes, then turn around and pass a bill that spends money on ****ing green lunch rooms in the school houses.
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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    God damn you guys....

    I'm going to Burger King ASAP.
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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I can't disagree, but I'd also be willing to bet that in the day when we were brought up, it only took one income to efficiently run, and fund the household. Today that just simply isn't the case. It takes two parents income to do that.

    Yep, mine too. And to boot, she shopped for her veggies at the farmers market. Today we get processed bags of bulk, and frozen from the local Wal Mart. On a budget and all.

    Again no disagreement here. But that is not to say that all of today's parents are like this.

    Yes, that is a factor no doubt, but not the whole story. There are many contributors that play into scholastic testing, but for the rudeness among today's youth, that is a parental factor.

    If I had to guess I'd bet you are a teacher? Am I close? But I think that overall society is expecting these kids to grow up too damned fast. both parents out of the house, discipline lacking, role models left to the streets. for starters.

    Agreed.


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    I agree to a certain extent. I do think the loss of a stay at home parent was extremely detrimental to the family unit. There is a ton of work that goes into properly caring for a family and it's hard for two people to get all of it done after their jobs.

    But it is still possible. It takes some reshuffling of priorties and you don't have much relaxing time, but it can be done. But many (you're right, not all) parents today would rather come home from work, reheat a frozen dinner and turn the tv on. It's hard to cook dinner every night, help your kids through an hour of homework, supervise 30 minutes of music practice, not to mention sports, etc. But people used to understand that choosing to raise a child IS hard.

    And I'm actually an accountant. But my closest friend since high school teaches 7th grade and I hear more stories from her than I care too.
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