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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Yet, we all know families who "can't afford health insurance" who have new cars, cable TV, internet, games, multiple cell phones, etc...
    Maybe if we feed their kids, they will buy insurance?
    We also know business making huge profits who take government bailouts, tax breaks, and government money for all kinds of things they don't really do.

    But, we have more problem helping the lower end than the upper end for reasons that escape me. If a kid needs a meal, I have no problem providing it any way I can, including with my tax dollar. If the school is goign to use our tax dollars to feed children, I have no problem saying they should provide nutricious food, and don't see that as too controversial. If you also want to admonish parents, feel free. If you want something that holds parents accountable, also OK.

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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    We also know business making huge profits who take government bailouts, tax breaks, and government money for all kinds of things they don't really do.

    But, we have more problem helping the lower end than the upper end for reasons that escape me. If a kid needs a meal, I have no problem providing it any way I can, including with my tax dollar. If the school is goign to use our tax dollars to feed children, I have no problem saying they should provide nutricious food, and don't see that as too controversial. If you also want to admonish parents, feel free. If you want something that holds parents accountable, also OK.
    Agree about business, but that is another topic in another thread...I don't know of any businesses getting subsidized lunches, altho the businesses providing the food to the schools are getting paid with tax dollars.
    If any of the many programs we have today existed in the 60's, we knew nothing about it. But, realistically, I don't know if we are creating more slackers today than we were back then, judging from just my family.
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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Because you're not paying attention to what she's saying. It's a stupid proposition.
    But she thinks it's constitutional. Doesn't that scare you in the least? Cripe, she couldn't say that forcing people to eat vegetables was unconstitutional?

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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Agree about business, but that is another topic in another thread...I don't know of any businesses getting subsidized lunches, altho the businesses providing the food to the schools are getting paid with tax dollars.
    If any of the many programs we have today existed in the 60's, we knew nothing about it. But, realistically, I don't know if we are creating more slackers today than we were back then, judging from just my family.
    I think they get the equivilent of free lunches, given money for many friviolous reasons.

    And yes, that is another thread if we're to speak about those specifics.

    There were some programs in the 60's. I remember getting beans and free cheese. Actually developed a taste for both. And even with food stamps and welfare, I often ate better at school. My mother was no slacker. She worked even then, and every day until the day she died, calling in sick to work only to go to the hosptial and die. So, we didn't create a slacker by helping her. Too often we stereotype and ignore the real people who are actually helped. Sure, we can find people who abuse anything and everything. but we do help real people with many of these programs.

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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Oh lawd... feeding kids vegetables! Oh the statism! Oh the statism! I wish people knew what that word meant.
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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    We also know business making huge profits who take government bailouts, tax breaks, and government money for all kinds of things they don't really do.
    More jealousy Joe? Really now, if you are unhappy with your lot in life maybe you should change it, instead of constantly bitching about others success.


    But, we have more problem helping the lower end than the upper end for reasons that escape me.
    More class warfare.

    If a kid needs a meal, I have no problem providing it any way I can, including with my tax dollar.
    then donate your dollars, but you don't have the right to tell me what to do with mine.

    If the school is goign to use our tax dollars to feed children, I have no problem saying they should provide nutricious food, and don't see that as too controversial.
    On this point I do agree, however, when the school starts serving dinner, and telling kids what their home prepared lunches must contain, or can not contain, then the line is crossed.

    If you also want to admonish parents, feel free. If you want something that holds parents accountable, also OK.
    Admonish? Hold me accountable? Let me tell you encroaching little liberals something. It's none of your damned business what I feed my kid, as long as he/she is healthy, and well fed then you all can go fly a kite as far as I am concerned, and mind your own business at that point. Are we clear?


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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    But she thinks it's constitutional. Doesn't that scare you in the least? Cripe, she couldn't say that forcing people to eat vegetables was unconstitutional?

    Can someone think of a funny sig line for me concerning my paranoia of socialism/communism/marxism/black helicopters/food police/green police and anything else you notice I'm afraid of?
    Not exactly what she said. Like the congressman questioning her, you're look for a decalration and not a discussion of actual law. She recognized this and called it a silly law. She wanted to move to something more substancial, but that wasn't what the congressman wanted. I suspect few who use this do either.

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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    They'll remember if we hold them accountable. But it would also help if we were a little more coherent. I was tlaking with a conservative the other day, for example, who wants all the benefits of the new health care bill, but none of the options for paying for them. What can a leader do with that message?
    A conservative wouldn't want benefits unless they were paying for them.
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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Oh lawd... feeding kids vegetables! Oh the statism! Oh the statism! I wish people knew what that word meant.

    I know exactly what it means, and how you love it so.


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    Re: Obama to sign Child Nutrition Bill today

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    More jealousy Joe? Really now, if you are unhappy with your lot in life maybe you should change it, instead of constantly bitching about others success.
    Nope, just your silly misreading again.


    More class warfare.
    Nope. That is actually what you're doing and not myself.

    then donate your dollars, but you don't have the right to tell me what to do with mine.
    I do. And you have elected officials just as do. You are represented. it's called taxation with representation.


    On this point I do agree, however, when the school starts serving dinner, and telling kids what their home prepared lunches must contain, or can not contain, then the line is crossed.
    There is not enough doing this to warant your concern. There is few no real effort to tell students what they can bring in lunch bags.


    Admonish? Hold me accountable? Let me tell you encroaching little liberals something. It's none of your damned business what I feed my kid, as long as he/she is healthy, and well fed then you all can go fly a kite as far as I am concerned, and mind your own business at that point. Are we clear?
    Yes, if you take welfare and food stamps and don't feed your children with them, I think we should hold you accountable. I know that is harsh for a conservative, but that's how I roll.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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