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    Re: Blasts rock Swedish capital

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Pete is talking about the nutjobs. Or are they the majority now?
    A religion, that is the majority religion, is the religion that has the most nutjobs. It's up to the people within that religion to police up all those clowns and get rid of them. Their failure to do so indicates that they may disagree with the method, but are fully on-board with the motives and rationale behind those actions.
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    Re: Blasts rock Swedish capital

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Pete is talking about the nutjobs. Or are they the majority now?
    I don't think so. Why would anyone object to "targeting" the nutjobs, or need to make "excuses" for it? Aren't they the appropriate target?

    No, he's talking about "targeting" Muslims in general.
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    Re: Blasts rock Swedish capital

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Islam is the largest
    Nope, that's Christianity.

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    fastest growing religion in the world
    Not growing as fast as it used to, and followed very closely by Christianity.
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    Re: Blasts rock Swedish capital

    The Muslim community as a whole can't really do much about Muslim extremists. Do you take time out of your day to bother about who your neighbor is ****ing? I mean most Catholics don't expect their clergy to be f'n with their kids and yet, there they are, f'n with the kids. In the views of apdst, Muslims are not normal people. They are not like you and I who would go to a place, work, eat, pray etc etc with a lot of people and then not really give two ****s about what it is they do outside of our interactions with them. It's quite sad to see a black man with such an Eurocentric view of the world. Think of it this way, how many times have you seen a Christian on this board argue that Christians as a whole must be on the look out for Christian pedophiles, murderers and rapists? Not ever.

    It's the sociological hypocrisy of the Western world, we are to be treated individuals, they are to be treated as groups.
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    Re: Blasts rock Swedish capital

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Make them vanish? No, that'll never happen. However, your, "what the hell can I do about it?", attitude only insures that they will be able to operate, almost unimpeded, within their own community.
    My attitude is certainly not "what the hell can I do about it". My attitude is we will never get rid of terrorism. It's always been around and always will be. We may very well be able to get rid of one or two groups of terrorists and, if we're lucky, Islamists will be one of them. Don't think for one second that it'll be the last we see of terrorism even if we do. I've been alive long enough to know that. My attitude is to never under any circumstances, give in to the fear and never, ever negotiate with them. This weakens them more than any military operation ever could. Killing them simply doesn't work, as others will take their place. Weakining their resolve by not giving them what they want is much more effective.
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    Re: Blasts rock Swedish capital

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's up to the people within that religion to police up all those clowns and get rid of them.
    How many times do you have to be told that Islam is not a centralized religion? There are no popes or cardinals or bishops -- just imams and individual congregations.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Their failure to do so indicates that they may disagree with the method, but are fully on-board with the motives and rationale behind those actions.
    Just like our failure to get rid of all those clowns indicates that we are fully on-board with the motives and rationale behind those actions, right?
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    Re: Blasts rock Swedish capital

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I don't think so. Why would anyone object to "targeting" the nutjobs, or need to make "excuses" for it? Aren't they the appropriate target?

    No, he's talking about "targeting" Muslims in general.
    Maybe you're right. I'm sure he'll clarify soon enough.
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    Re: Blasts rock Swedish capital

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    My attitude is certainly not "what the hell can I do about it". My attitude is we will never get rid of terrorism. It's always been around and always will be. We may very well be able to get rid of one or two groups of terrorists and, if we're lucky, Islamists will be one of them. Don't think for one second that it'll be the last we see of terrorism even if we do. I've been alive long enough to know that. My attitude is to never under any circumstances, give in to the fear and never, ever negotiate with them. This weakens them more than any military operation ever could. Killing them simply doesn't work, as others will take their place. Weakining their resolve by not giving them what they want is much more effective.
    Why did you quote me with this?
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    Re: Blasts rock Swedish capital

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Why did you quote me with this?
    I didn't. The stupid forum software did.
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    Re: Blasts rock Swedish capital

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A religion, that is the majority religion, is the religion that has the most nutjobs. It's up to the people within that religion to police up all those clowns and get rid of them. Their failure to do so indicates that they may disagree with the method, but are fully on-board with the motives and rationale behind those actions.
    That makes zero sense considering that the majority of victims of Islamic terrorism are Muslim themselves.

    Didn't we already have this conversation? It so feels like deja-vu....
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