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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Heavy Duty View Post
    Every, EVERY role in the military is in support of a combat role.
    Have you ever heard of the U.S. Army boxing team? I know guys who didn't do anything but box for almost their whole time in the army.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    If results are truly what matters, this administration applied rules to TARP, recouped TARP, and is headed for a profit for the taxpayers off TARP.

    TARP, the Forbidden Bipartisan Success - Joshua Green - Politics - The Atlantic

    It's almost like there's a perverse joy as ultra-cons do their best Snidely Whiplash and pray for the president's failure. Every success is ignored and every redirection magnified. For every one of these links projecting doom, I can link equally credible sources projecting big successes in the long run. I don't get it.
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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean City View Post
    Have you ever heard of the U.S. Army boxing team? I know guys who didn't do anything but box for almost their whole time in the army.
    The army has an elite athlete program. I was recruited to be on the USArmy Marksmanship Unit/US Army shooting team. lots of olympic medalists have come from this program that specializes in the less popular international style shooting events such as Olympic Trap, ISU Skeet, and free pistol. HOwever, that unit has useful military applications in that many of the top sniper rigs were designed by the AMU gunsmiths etc.



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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    The army has an elite athlete program. I was recruited to be on the USArmy Marksmanship Unit/US Army shooting team. lots of olympic medalists have come from this program that specializes in the less popular international style shooting events such as Olympic Trap, ISU Skeet, and free pistol. HOwever, that unit has useful military applications in that many of the top sniper rigs were designed by the AMU gunsmiths etc.
    This applies to the boxing team how?

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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Kev316 View Post
    If results are truly what matters, this administration applied rules to TARP, recouped TARP, and is headed for a profit for the taxpayers off TARP.

    TARP, the Forbidden Bipartisan Success - Joshua Green - Politics - The Atlantic

    It's almost like there's a perverse joy as ultra-cons do their best Snidely Whiplash and pray for the president's failure. Every success is ignored and every redirection magnified. For every one of these links projecting doom, I can link equally credible sources projecting big successes in the long run. I don't get it.
    MOre than a few dems were doing their best to convince everyone-including our enemies-that the war under Bush was a disaster so they would have a campaign issue in 2004. I hope Obama fails because I don't want him appointing any more supreme court justices who are childless liberal women whose views of America's future are far different than mine. I do realize that Obama's proposed compromise is good for the GOP, good for the country and good for his reelection chances though



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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean City View Post
    This applies to the boxing team how?
    I was merely noting that the army supports athletes in several different olympic sports. they have a wrestling team as well and during the vietnam war Stan Smith was in the army and had an army tennis coach (Bill Maze or Glaze-something like that-he stayed at our home when SMith Came to Cincinnati to play in what was then the Western Professional Tennis championships).



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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Heavy Duty View Post
    By now youre over your head you need a straw to breathe through.


    Show where this articles states that the role of every soldier is in support of a combat role.



    These are your words right? Or are you going to try the typical liberal stunt by lying and claiming it not what you meant?

    Every, EVERY role in the military is in support of a combat role. Until you can find proof otherwise , which you cant, cont making yourself look like an idiot. I am sitting here laughing at your ignorance.

    Now if you want to say there is wasteful spending in the military I would have to agree. But thats not what you said. You said that the majority of the troops are behind desks and their jobs were not supporting your freedoms. That is where you made your idiotic and stupid statement about our troops. EVERY soldier in the military is a support role to combat troops. Without combat troops and the people whom support them there are no freedoms nor anyone to fight for them.

    So you have been enlightened. Remember next time you want to be a typical liberal military basher because there will always be a vet around to set you straight.
    "Liberal stunt..." Don't you see? This where things beak down. Why not just view it as an individual argument? Why label the person something you disdain and dehumanize them? Perhaps it has nothing to do with "liberal." Perhaps - just perhaps - the person can think for the themselves with their own unique point of view? Can you imagine that at all?

    For me, what is most frustrating about this way of thinking is that most of the ultra-cons I have met know nothing of "Liberals." They only seem to know what they've been told, as evidenced by the outrageous stereotypes they use - stereotypes that are hilarious in their absurdity.
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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ah yes the massive military bureaucracy which has been attacked by everyone in and outside the military is the one you think signs for your bullets? Here I'll rub your face in your own bull****:

    Gates urges cuts in military bureaucracy | North America > United States from AllBusiness.com



    Please save us all the 'veteran' rant as long as you want to pretend that all the paper pushers in the military are actually supporting anyone.
    Actually, it's your ignorance. it's not the "lack" of support that is the problem in the military. We have a ton of people in every position, it's the lack of efficiency due to outdated jobs(i.e. not combining IT with IS and EM with ET). Gates isn't cutting bureaucracy because there aren't enougb "support positions", he's cutting bureacracy because it's not efficient enough. And I can see it improving, little by little,.
    Last edited by DarkWizard12; 12-12-10 at 02:06 PM.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Kev316 View Post
    "Liberal stunt..." Don't you see? This where things beak down. Why not just view it as an individual argument? Why label the person something you disdain and dehumanize them?
    I think almost every one of that guys post slanders or bashes liberals somehow, has curse words and is filled with "idiots". I'm really surprised he hasn't gotten banned yet. He got banned from a thread the other night because he had a melt down. The deep hatred for anything leftist or democrat is kind of disturbing. I wouldn't be surprised if we have a future Timothy McVeigh on our hands.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean City View Post
    Have you ever heard of the U.S. Army boxing team? I know guys who didn't do anything but box for almost their whole time in the army.
    Google: Military MWR.

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