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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Heavy Duty View Post
    Companies dont want to have to listen to a bunch of crybabies that think they are entitled to a job.
    I know you were trying to apply this to union workers, but I think it is equally applicable to executives who think they are entitled to multi-million dollar bonuses for reducing the number of olives in salads for airline flights by one.

    Maybe instead of heaping such money on executives who make only short term gains to acquire personal bonuses at the cost of long term benefits to the company they'll work at for only six months who will then go panhalding to the government for a bailout, they could instead hire workers at decent wages to foster a viable, reliable work force capable of sustaining itself.

    I'm not saying that unions aren't a problem - they can be. But they are only part of the problem, and if we don't address other things, such as executive bonuses, then nothing will get solved.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Heavy Duty View Post
    Once again you show your ignorance about the military.

    Every role in the military is in support of combat forces. Just because someone is behind a desk doesnt mean they are not on the front line. Their support is critical to those of us that were fighting on the front lines. The ammo that I fired came from someone sitting behind a desk. Without it there is no fighting for anyone's freedom.

    So if you want to embarrass yourself everytime you made some idiotic comment about something you had no clue about, you should sit down and shut up before a veteran came along to rub your nose in your own BS.
    Ah yes the massive military bureaucracy which has been attacked by everyone in and outside the military is the one you think signs for your bullets? Here I'll rub your face in your own bull****:

    Gates urges cuts in military bureaucracy | North America > United States from AllBusiness.com

    ABILENE, Kan. ? Warring against waste, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Saturday he is ordering a top-to-bottom paring of the military bureaucracy in search of at least $10 billion in annual savings needed to prevent an erosion of U.S. combat power. He took aim at what he called a bloated bureaucracy, wasteful business practices, and too many generals and admirals, and outlined an ambitious plan for reform that's almost certain to stir opposition in the corridors of Congress and Pentagon.

    "The Defense Department must take a hard look at every aspect of how it is organized, staffed and operated ? indeed, every aspect of how it does business," he said in a speech at the Eisenhower Presidential Library and Museum in the former commander in chief's hometown. Gates, also a Kansas native, addressed a crowd of about 300 from the steps of the library at a ceremony marking the 65th anniversary of Nazi Germany's surrender in World War II. The library was a fitting setting for Gates to caution against unrestrained military spending. In his farewell address to the nation from the Oval Office in January 1961, President Dwight D. Eisenhower famously warned of the "grave implications" of having built during that war an enormous military establishment and a huge arms industry that could wield undue influence in American society.
    Please save us all the 'veteran' rant as long as you want to pretend that all the paper pushers in the military are actually supporting anyone.
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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ah yes the massive military bureaucracy which has been attacked by everyone in and outside the military is the one you think signs for your bullets? Here I'll rub your face in your own bull****:

    Gates urges cuts in military bureaucracy | North America > United States from AllBusiness.com



    Please save us all the 'veteran' rant as long as you want to pretend that all the paper pushers in the military are actually supporting anyone.
    Paper pushers aren't the ones who are most involved in the military-industrial-congressional complex, however.

    There's a lot of things that our combat servicemen require in support of their operations. That includes logistics, intelligence, and information. That also includes a lot of paperwork to make sure everything gets recorded correctly. A lot of this is done to ensure civilian authority over the military in order to oversee the military's operations.

    While the bureaucrcy may need to be trimmed down, I am much more concerned with the proliferation of no-bid contracts politicians dole out to their major contributors. I would much rather have that be tackled and addressed to ensure competition for funds for government contractors than attack servicemen who are just doing the job their commanding officers tell them to do.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I know you were trying to apply this to union workers, but I think it is equally applicable to executives who think they are entitled to multi-million dollar bonuses for reducing the number of olives in salads for airline flights by one.

    Maybe instead of heaping such money on executives who make only short term gains to acquire personal bonuses at the cost of long term benefits to the company they'll work at for only six months who will then go panhalding to the government for a bailout, they could instead hire workers at decent wages to foster a viable, reliable work force capable of sustaining itself.

    I'm not saying that unions aren't a problem - they can be. But they are only part of the problem, and if we don't address other things, such as executive bonuses, then nothing will get solved.
    A company isn't going to hire workers, that it doesn't need. No matter how much capital a company has, it would be bad business to do so.
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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A company isn't going to hire workers, that it doesn't need. No matter how much capital a company has, it would be bad business to do so.
    I'm not suggesting it does so. What I'm suggesting it does, however, is give adequate pay to the workers it does need rather than lay them off or reduce their pay in order to increase stock prices in the short term so a smaller number of executives can get a larger amount of money from bonuses.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ah yes the massive military bureaucracy which has been attacked by everyone in and outside the military is the one you think signs for your bullets? Here I'll rub your face in your own bull****:

    Gates urges cuts in military bureaucracy | North America > United States from AllBusiness.com
    Yes your ingonrance is displayed again.



    Please save us all the 'veteran' rant as long as you want to pretend that all the paper pushers in the military are actually supporting anyone.
    By now youre over your head you need a straw to breathe through.


    Show where this articles states that the role of every soldier is in support of a combat role.

    You do know that the overwhelming majority of the military isn't actually 'fighting' right? It's behind a desk filling out papers?
    These are your words right? Or are you going to try the typical liberal stunt by lying and claiming it not what you meant?

    Every, EVERY role in the military is in support of a combat role. Until you can find proof otherwise , which you cant, cont making yourself look like an idiot. I am sitting here laughing at your ignorance.

    Now if you want to say there is wasteful spending in the military I would have to agree. But thats not what you said. You said that the majority of the troops are behind desks and their jobs were not supporting your freedoms. That is where you made your idiotic and stupid statement about our troops. EVERY soldier in the military is a support role to combat troops. Without combat troops and the people whom support them there are no freedoms nor anyone to fight for them.

    So you have been enlightened. Remember next time you want to be a typical liberal military basher because there will always be a vet around to set you straight.
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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's because we fight wars, before our freedom is at stake. If we wait until our freedom is at stake, we end up with another version of WW2, where we lost 400,000 Americans, because we waited until our very freedom was on the line.
    I'm going to try to use that one in court. I have a suspicion someone might try to shoot me decades from now, so I'm just going to go shoot him immediately and when I get arrested I will tell the judge I shot in self defense, before my life was actually at stake, because I didn't want to wait until my life was actually at stake.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ah yes the massive military bureaucracy which has been attacked by everyone in and outside the military is the one you think signs for your bullets? Here I'll rub your face in your own bull****:

    Gates urges cuts in military bureaucracy | North America > United States from AllBusiness.com



    Please save us all the 'veteran' rant as long as you want to pretend that all the paper pushers in the military are actually supporting anyone.
    Actually, our designs on a small, cheap, privatized military - augmented with private contractors - is eating a huge chunk of the military budget. This from page 4 of the Congressional Research Service report, Department of Defense Contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan: Background and Analysis

    http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/128824.pdf

    "According to DOD, as of March 31, 2009, there were 242,657 DOD contractor personnel in the CENTCOM AOR compared to approximately 282,000 uniformed personnel in the region who are supporting operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Contractors made up approximately 46% of DODís combined contractor and uniformed personnel workforce in the CENTCOM AOR, representing a .86-1 ratio between contractors and uniformed personnel."

    Contractor deaths are also starting to exceed military deaths. Anyway, that's a ton o' cash. War has become waaay too profitable, imo.
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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Bernie Sanders should move his socialistic ass to anywhere but here.
    I'll be staying. Thanks but no thanks. :-)
    You are most welcome my dear friend.
    Catch me if you can.

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