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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Well all the provisions are temporary which limits the long term impact on the debt. But, more important is getting agreement about the all-important stimulus for this anemic economy. The president has lined up the Republican support, he needs just enough Democratic support to get this to his desk.

    Thereafter, I think it's clear there will be significant taxation reform upcoming in this new Congress. It may take another cycle before it's done, but, it's clear that a large scale budget reform program needs to be implemented.
    Wait, let me get this straight...you don't want this tax bill to pass because of the debt, but you want another stimulus bill to pass....am I missing something?
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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You do know that the American military is the perfect example of socialism within a rabidly anti-socialist society right?

    And how the military is run is relevant to what in this discussion? Our military structure only has relevance to the military. Most people would hate to have to live their lives like the military does. It's great we have them and I wouldn't want to be without them but the contrast should serve as an inspiration as to why we don't want the government owning everything and running everything.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You do know that the American military is the perfect example of socialism within a rabidly anti-socialist society right?
    You mean the VOLUNTARY military?

    Swing and a miss.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by SirPwn4lot View Post
    I realize this is a little late, but as far as a search on the topic can reveal, there's been no actual thread on it. Not sure if I should post it here, but C-SPAN seems to fit the description.

    Yesterday, Bernie Sanders, the Senator from Vermont, the only open democratic socialist in the Congress gave an eight and a half hour speech detesting Obama's deal with the Republican leadership to extend the Bush tax cuts for 2 years in exchange for 13 months of unemployment benefits.

    He brings up a variety of issues, including many those who agree with him brought up here. I've enjoyed it very much so far, and I'm only 2.5 hours in. I suggest you all give it a watch, no matter your political beliefs.

    A link to the full 8.5hr speech can be found here
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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    On a serious note Sanders makes a lot of sense. I enjoyed listening to his filibuster on C-Span2 while I was working late in the shop that day. He exposes well the hogwash about the filthy rich providing jobs, and if they get a tax break they are more likely to provide jobs. Trouble is if you know anything about business as those of us that do run businesses, is if the middle class isn't buying products there is no reason to expand production or inventory. It has nothing to do with tax breaks for the relatively small amount of billionaires that provide less jobs than the middle to upper class small businesses. No demand, no expansion, and no hiring. Business 101, but the repubs want their tax breaks for their wealthy contributors. That's really what it's all about. On top of that we loose an incredible amount of revenue providing tax breaks to those that don't need it. Utterly assinine!


    Just for perspective I know of a factory that employed about 100 people. Guess what the annual salary of the owner was? It was actually less than $250,000. So the crock of **** the republicans are spinning regarding trickle down economics and those making over $250,000 annually is just that -- a crock of ****. And as far as corporations they don't pay much tax anyway. If you don't believe me look it up. It's also business 101.
    For the love God, how is keeping the rates the same a tax cut? It's not a tax cut if you fail to raise them. LOL

    You know, people aren't as stupid as Dems like to think they are.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders' 8 and a Half Hour Speech in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    filibuster: it's not wrong when WE do it.
    Technically it's not a filibuster because it wasn't blocking a vote/debate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod
    For the love God, how is keeping the rates the same a tax cut? It's not a tax cut if you fail to raise them. LOL
    I agree with you, but I can't help but think that if it were in the opposite position and we'd had a 10 year tax increase that was about to expire, the Republicans would be calling them the "Obama tax increases".

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