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    Re: November Deficit Highest on Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Shooterman View Post
    Does anybody have any idea how we're going to pay for this crap?
    How about letting ALL the Bush tax cuts to sunset?


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    Re: November Deficit Highest on Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Then site your sources which you never have done. Bureau of Labor Statistics is non partisan and seems to be quoted by liberals when it serves their purpose thus it is not being quoted now, wonder why?

    From the BLS, Employment by month since 1980

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    1980 99879 99995 99713 99233 98945 98682 98796 98824 99077 99317 99545 99634
    1981 99955 100191 100571 101056 101048 100298 100693 100689 100064 100378 100207 99645
    1982 99692 99762 99672 99576 100116 99543 99493 99633 99504 99215 99112 99032
    1983 99161 99089 99179 99560 99642 100633 101208 101608 102016 102039 102729 102996
    1984 103201 103824 103967 104336 105193 105591 105435 105163 105490 105638 105972 106223
    1985 106302 106555 106989 106936 106932 106505 106807 107095 107657 107847 108007 108216
    1986 108887 108480 108837 108952 109089 109576 109810 110015 110085 110273 110475 110728
    1987 110953 111257 111408 111794 112434 112246 112634 113057 112909 113282 113505 113793
    1988 114016 114227 114037 114650 114292 114927 115060 115282 115356 115638 116100 116104
    1989 116708 116776 117022 117097 117099 117418 117472 117655 117354 117581 117912 117830
    1990 119081 119059 119203 118852 119151 118983 118810 118802 118524 118536 118306 118241
    1991 117940 117755 117652 118109 117440 117639 117568 117484 117928 117800 117770 117466
    1992 117978 117753 118144 118426 118375 118419 118713 118826 118720 118628 118876 118997
    1993 119075 119275 119542 119474 120115 120290 120467 120856 120554 120823 121169 121464
    1994 121966 122086 121930 122290 122864 122634 122706 123342 123687 124112 124516 124721
    1995 124663 124928 124955 124945 124421 124522 124816 124852 125133 125388 125188 125088
    1996 125125 125639 125862 125994 126244 126602 126947 127172 127536 127890 127771 127860
    1997 128298 128298 128891 129143 129464 129412 129822 130010 130019 130179 130653 130679
    1998 130726 130807 130814 131209 131325 131244 131329 131390 131986 131999 132280 132602
    1999 133027 132856 132947 132955 133311 133378 133414 133591 133707 133993 134309 134523
    2000 136559 136598 136701 137270 136630 136940 136531 136662 136893 137088 137322 137614
    2001 137778 137612 137783 137299 137092 136873 137071 136241 136846 136392 136238 136047
    2002 135701 136438 136177 136126 136539 136415 136413 136705 137302 137008 136521 136426
    2003 137417 137482 137434 137633 137544 137790 137474 137549 137609 137984 138424 138411
    2004 138472 138542 138453 138680 138852 139174 139556 139573 139487 139732 140231 140125
    2005 140245 140385 140654 141254 141609 141714 142026 142434 142401 142548 142499 142752
    2006 143142 143444 143765 143794 144108 144370 144229 144631 144797 145292 145477 145914
    2007 146032 146043 146368 145686 145952 146079 145926 145685 146193 145885 146483 146173
    2008 146421 146165 146173 146306 146023 145768 145515 145187 145021 144677 143907 143188
    2009 142221 141687 140854 140902 140438 140038 139817 139433 138768 138242 138381 137792
    2010 138333 138641 138905 139455 139420 139119 138960 139250 139391 139061 138888
    That looks like an IBM core dump, but there are no hexidecimal numbers ABCDEF


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    Re: November Deficit Highest on Record

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    How about letting ALL the Bush tax cuts to sunset?
    Which would result in a 50% increase in tax rate for the lowest tax bracket. Sure you don't want to think this through a little....??


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    Re: November Deficit Highest on Record

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    That looks like an IBM core dump, but there are no hexidecimal numbers ABCDEF
    All you need to know is there were 138.9 million people working in November 2010 and there were 143.2 million working on Dec. 31, 2008. You do the math and let us know how many jobs Obama has lost since taking office and spending trillions? Obama has a net job loss of 4.3 million and Bush had a net job gain of 8.5 million
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    Re: November Deficit Highest on Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    Which would result in a 50% increase in tax rate for the lowest tax bracket. Sure you don't want to think this through a little....??


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    Re: November Deficit Highest on Record

    Obama didn't lose the jobs. Bush didn't lose the jobs. The economy lost the jobs. Stimulus has kept employment higher than it would be. Tax cuts may or may not have had an impact on investment - there is a lot of money locked up. Increasing taxes will not help, it will hurt. The end of stimulus will hurt. The end of unemployment insurance will hurt. Spend with the deficit until we start growing again. Start cutting other spending now.

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    Re: November Deficit Highest on Record

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Obama didn't lose the jobs. Bush didn't lose the jobs. The economy lost the jobs. Stimulus has kept employment higher than it would be. Tax cuts may or may not have had an impact on investment - there is a lot of money locked up. Increasing taxes will not help, it will hurt. The end of stimulus will hurt. The end of unemployment insurance will hurt. Spend with the deficit until we start growing again. Start cutting other spending now.
    Yep, that about sums it up. Nicely done...



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    Re: November Deficit Highest on Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    All you need to know is there were 138.9 million people working in November 2010 and there were 143.2 million working on Dec. 31, 2008. You do the math and let us know how many jobs Obama has lost since taking office and spending trillions? Obama has a net job loss of 4.3 million and Bush had a net job gain of 8.5 million
    All you need to know is that Bush had the worse track record on record. And that was before the crash.

    Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record - Real Time Economics - WSJ


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    Re: November Deficit Highest on Record

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Obama didn't lose the jobs. Bush didn't lose the jobs. The economy lost the jobs. Stimulus has kept employment higher than it would be. Tax cuts may or may not have had an impact on investment - there is a lot of money locked up. Increasing taxes will not help, it will hurt. The end of stimulus will hurt. The end of unemployment insurance will hurt. Spend with the deficit until we start growing again. Start cutting other spending now.
    No one can provie that the stimulus kept employment higher than it would have been. You cannot prove a negative only what actually happened but I assure you that if you spent what Obama spent and got the results Obama got, you wouldn't have a job right now.

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    Re: November Deficit Highest on Record

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    All you need to know is that Bush had the worse track record on record. And that was before the crash.

    Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record - Real Time Economics - WSJ
    Obama has a net job loss of over 4 million, Bush had a net gain, so Bush is going to be replaced on your list rather quickly.

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