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    Re: November Deficit Highest on Record

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    "Our entry level pay rate is 25 cents over what you currently make. Is that okay?"
    I never paid minimum wage to any employee so the person that took a minimum wage job to keep from taking unemployment shows me a strong desire on the part of that individual to actually work. I would take the .25 less if that was all that was available before I ever would take unemployment and would guarantee you my work ethic wouldn't have me at minimum wage long.

    If unemployment was the only option, it wouldn't take me 2-3 years to get a job like apparently some out there.

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    Re: November Deficit Highest on Record

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    So a person who used to have a middle class job should take a minimum wage job, right?

    How does that solve the shrinkage of the middle class?
    It gets people off of unemployment and the economy moving. Once things improve the person looks for a job that better fits his education and skill level moving up to better pay. One does not take a low paying job to stay their but to get by till better opportunities come along.

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    Re: November Deficit Highest on Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What do you think the employer would say next?
    That is ludacrious. An employer would not hire someone not qualified if that situtation took place. Furthermore, your firms share of the unemployment would be tiny compared to the cost of providing mandatory benefits. From a business position, your stance is highly unprofitable.
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    Re: November Deficit Highest on Record

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Furthermore, your firms share of the unemployment would be tiny compared to the cost of providing mandatory benefits.
    Oh? Then why hire anyone, ever?

    Speaking of "ludacrious" . . .
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    Re: November Deficit Highest on Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Oh? Then why hire anyone, ever?

    Speaking of "ludacrious" . . .
    Because the firm has/or will have demand that cannot be serviced with current staffing levels and that level of demand will bring is net revenue higher then the cost of the employee.
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    Re: November Deficit Highest on Record

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Because the firm has/or will have demand that cannot be serviced with current staffing levels and that level of demand will bring is net revenue higher then the cost of the employee.
    And why do you assume this is not the case in the example he cited, which you were answering? Companies generally don't interview if they're not looking to hire.
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    Re: November Deficit Highest on Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    And why do you assume this is not the case in the example he cited, which you were answering? Companies generally don't interview if they're not looking to hire.
    Right, especially in this market, given the choice of two individuals, one who remained employed during difficult economic times by taking lower paying jobs because jobs in their field weren't available and one who was on unemployment for 2-3 years I will always give the benefit of doubt to the person who worked instead of drawing unemployment.

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    Re: November Deficit Highest on Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Right, especially in this market, given the choice of two individuals, one who remained employed during difficult economic times by taking lower paying jobs because jobs in their field weren't available and one who was on unemployment for 2-3 years I will always give the benefit of doubt to the person who worked instead of drawing unemployment.
    It would be in the plus column for me as well. If it's between two candidates with identical credentials, one who worked wherever he could, and the other who decided to wait it out until they could find something in the field, I go with the former. Any competent hirer would.
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    Re: November Deficit Highest on Record

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    And why do you assume this is not the case in the example he cited, which you were answering? Companies generally don't interview if they're not looking to hire.
    First, because his scenario was hiring for people working in jobs not in their expertise. And because the rational behind hiring him was purely because he took a lower paying job then unemployment. And actually companies do interview purely to keep abreast of potential hires, even if they aren't interested in filling positions. Firms may create positions merely to grab an excellent candidate even if they don't have work for them at the current date. Call it denial of talent to competitors.
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    Re: November Deficit Highest on Record

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Because the firm has/or will have demand that cannot be serviced with current staffing levels and that level of demand will bring is net revenue higher then the cost of the employee.
    Hiring more personel, is going to bring in more revenue? That's the dumbest **** I've ever heard of.

    You certainly do not have any real world experience.
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