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'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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A win for the good guys......Looks like a repeal of DADT is dead..........

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'DON'T ASK' STAYS: The Senate has failed to vote in favor of repealing "don't ask, don't tell." Democrats got 57 votes in favor of repealing it, three short of the 60 required.
 
A win for the good guys, really :roll:

Does that mean LGBT people are the bad guys?
 
A win for the good guys, really :roll:

Does that mean LGBT people are the bad guys?

LGBT people aren't the bad guys at all. They made the mistake of gambling on Obama caring about their issues. They were unwise.
 
A win for the good guys......Looks like a repeal of DADT is dead..........

'DON'T ASK' STAYS: The Senate has failed to vote in favor of repealing "don't ask, don't tell." Democrats got 57 votes in favor of repealing it, three short of the 60 required.

Read some news. Collins and Lieberman are reintroducing a stand alone bill.
One the other side of things, "the good guys??" Really? Give me one logical argument that is not based on the Bible (as our legal system isn't based on it) or how bad homosexuals are.
 
Read some news. Collins and Lieberman are reintroducing a stand alone bill....

Time is running out in the lame duck session, and Obama has other priorities like the New START Treaty he wants considered.
 
And McCain is, sheesh.

Obama could have gotten DADT repealed early in 2009. Republicans and conservatives were still stunned, demoralized and disorganized at that time. They wouldn't have been able to organize the same kind of resistance that materialized at the end of last year. Obama didn't give the LGBT community the priority he promised.

Edit: I think DADT will be struck down by the federal courts. That's a good thing, but not as legitimate as legislative repeal would have been.
 
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Obama could have gotten DADT repealed at the early in 2009. Republicans and conservatives were still stunned, demoralized and disorganized at that time. They wouldn't have been able to organize the same kind of resistance that materialized at the end of last year. Obama didn't give the LGBT community the priority he promised.

Edit: I think DADT will be struck down by the federal courts. That's a good thing, but not as legitimate as legislative repeal would have been.

I agree, Obama has been crap regarding LGBT issues, but it's not like the other guy in the race, McCain is any better. He is worse, he is leading the charge for DADT.
 
Remember when 51% was a majority and votes actually happened, instead of these lame "intent to filibuster" votes? I mean, 57 of 100 support this. There's a clear majority. But apparently that's not good enough, ever since the anti-equal rights camp decided that every single bill is filibustered by default and these frail old men ensured that they didn't have to actually speak. The whole tactic is the mark of a coward.
 
I am just glad its over and morale and troop readiness will not be affected.........
 
Remember when 51% was a majority and votes actually happened, instead of these lame "intent to filibuster" votes? I mean, 57 of 100 support this. There's a clear majority. But apparently that's not good enough, ever since the anti-equal rights camp decided that every single bill is filibustered by default and these frail old men ensured that they didn't have to actually speak. The whole tactic is the mark of a coward.

Frail old men rock.
 
Obama needs to grow a pair and repeal DADT himself. The argument that a future president will simply reverse the decision is unlikely when you consider that a large majority of people support ending DADT, and no future president is likely to expend political capital by repealing it.
 
Well, I disagree with this decision, but apparently what I think matters little - As if that's a surprise :D
 
A win for the good guys, really :roll:

Does that mean LGBT people are the bad guys?

It was an asinine comment on his part. And it is sad that anyone would look at it that way.
 
I am just glad its over and morale and troop readiness will not be affected.........

I wish you thought better of our troops and realized they're grown men who can handle whatever comes their way.
 
Obama needs to grow a pair and repeal DADT himself. The argument that a future president will simply reverse the decision is unlikely when you consider that a large majority of people support ending DADT, and no future president is likely to expend political capital by repealing it.

From the standpoint of most conservatives what you've posted is true. The issue isn't salient any longer for most conservatives. People can thank conservative LGBT people for socializing conservatives on this question.
 
Obama needs to grow a pair and repeal DADT himself. The argument that a future president will simply reverse the decision is unlikely when you consider that a large majority of people support ending DADT, and no future president is likely to expend political capital by repealing it.

Not just obama, but congress. This wrong needs to be righted.
 
A win for the good guys......Looks like a repeal of DADT is dead..........

Politics, Political News - POLITICO.com

'DON'T ASK' STAYS: The Senate has failed to vote in favor of repealing "don't ask, don't tell." Democrats got 57 votes in favor of repealing it, three short of the 60 required.

"good guys"? Listen, I've been pretty nice in other threads to people opposed to this civil rights issue, but this is the single most bigoted post I've ever seen on here. It's pathetic that this is even an issue.
 
I am just glad its over and morale and troop readiness will not be affected.........

My morale is greatly affected by this. And I think there are plenty of troops that want to see this done, since everyone in the military knows that it will eventually happen, no matter how bad some may not want it to. This is stupid. Just do it, and let everyone get on with their lives.

I hate that this is being screwed up by stupid old Republicans that obviously can't hear what they are being told or understand what is being told to them. The American people want this, even the majority of Republicans. The military doesn't think there will be any serious issues with this happening. These Republicans are voting on their own biases.
 
I am just glad its over and morale and troop readiness will not be affected.........

You should never underestimate liberals. You make the mistake of assuming that R=Good Guys and D=Bad Guys. This just like amnesty is one of those issues they will continue to always push. Now Obama could actually grow a pair of balls and just like Clinton put in DADT with a presidential order, Obama could use a presidential order.
 
You should never underestimate liberals. You make the mistake of assuming that R=Good Guys and D=Bad Guys. This just like amnesty is one of those issues they will continue to always push. Now Obama could actually grow a pair of balls and just like Clinton put in DADT with a presidential order, Obama could use a presidential order.

The problem with a presidental order is they can be overturned (likely one reason he hasn't).
 
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