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'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

Technically, those that hold to orthodox Christianity/Islam/etc are against homosexuality. Should the demoralization of our nation progress over time, DADT and other such issues will be allowed furthered upon. I am curious as to what the final product of an almost demoralized nation would be.
 
Technically, those that hold to orthodox Christianity/Islam/etc are against homosexuality. Should the demoralization of our nation progress over time, DADT and other such issues will be allowed furthered upon. I am curious as to what the final product of an almost demoralized nation would be.

Strange I don't feel demoralized....

And I must say those countries that hold to orthodox Islam are working out really fantastic. Obviously they should be our model.
 
Strange I don't feel demoralized....

And I must say those countries that hold to orthodox Islam are working out really fantastic. Obviously they should be our model.

Undoubtedly you wouldn't.

Shame on me for insinuating I agree with Islam.
 
Undoubtedly you wouldn't.

Shame on me for insinuating I agree with Islam.

You can agree as much as you want. In fact, I understand the Middle East has a very open immigration policy. Of course, they don't rank so hot on other things like income disparity and literacy, but those are just details, right?
 
You can agree as much as you want. In fact, I understand the Middle East has a very open immigration policy. Of course, they don't rank so hot on other things like income disparity and literacy, but those are just details, right?

Is this where I non chalantly say "Off-topic"?
 
Is this where I non chalantly say "Off-topic"?

:shrug: You could. Or, since you brought it up, you could expand on why we should be following orthodox religions in our policy making, specifically Islam. I'm dying to hear more.
 
:shrug: You could. Or, since you brought it up, you could expand on why we should be following orthodox religions in our policy making, specifically Islam. I'm dying to hear more.

I said we should be following orthodox religions in our policy making? Even Islam?

I'm "dying" to hear you say where I said that, since you're stating such.
 
I said we should be following orthodox religions in our policy making? Even Islam?

I'm "dying" to hear you say where I said that, since you're stating such.

Do you remember this post?

Technically, those that hold to orthodox Christianity/Islam/etc are against homosexuality. Should the demoralization of our nation progress over time, DADT and other such issues will be allowed furthered upon. I am curious as to what the final product of an almost demoralized nation would be.

Or were you not attempting to draw a connection between the "demoralization" of our country and laws not in line with orthodox religions?
 
Do you remember this post?



Or were you not attempting to draw a connection between the "demoralization" of our country and laws not in line with orthodox religions?

So stating an observation, by what seems to be your logic, demands that I am for it? In what seems to be your viewpoint, how could any media possibly exist? If you were, it's not nice to assume.
 
So stating an observation, by what seems to be your logic, demands that I am for it? In what seems to be your viewpoint, how could any media possibly exist? If you were, it's not nice to assume.

So then just so we're clear, your first sentence had nothing to do with the rest of your post?
 
So then just so we're clear, your first sentence had nothing to do with the rest of your post?

Instead of possibly making assumptions, why not ask to verify it? That way, you wouldn't need to prod my posts.
 
Instead of possibly making assumptions, why not ask to verify it? That way, you wouldn't need to prod my posts.

Or you could just clarify your post.
 
Um, the contrary it's totally expected. Whatever NP predicts will not occur. Therefore, he's spot on as usual. His record of predicting the wrong outcome on binary decisions suggests it is not simply chance.

Yeah like I predicted Republicans would take over the house Nov 2.........ROTFLMAO
 
Yeah like I predicted Republicans would take over the house Nov 2.........ROTFLMAO

Did you also predict that the sun would come up today? Almost the whole world figured the house was going to republicans.
 
Yep... whatever you say dogg.

I think he wants a law passed, so it's passed once and for all... an executive order can be rescinded.

So can a law, obviously. I think the point that most of you are missing, is that the only thing that was done here, is that DADT has been repealed. No permanent law, allowing gays to serve in the military has been passed.
 
Uhh, no, they want it done in a way that can't be instantly reversed the moment a Republican sits in the oval office.
Also, DADT has already been neutered pretty well. It is now a secretary-level decision to discharge someone under DADT, and those guys usually have better things to do.

If in '13, we have a republican prez and a filibuster proof Republican majority, you think this can't be reversed within a week?

Ya'll better hope this goes off without a hitch, because if the midterms are any indication a total Republican majority is exactly what we're going to have in '13 and any visible problems with overturning DADT will be all the justification they need to put it back in place, only this time it won't be, "don't ask, don't tell", it'll be, "no gays, period".
 
So can a law, obviously. I think the point that most of you are missing, is that the only thing that was done here, is that DADT has been repealed. No permanent law, allowing gays to serve in the military has been passed.

I have linked each of the versions that have been voted on, and all do remove the ban of gays in the military. Bill Text - 111th Congress (2009-2010) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

(f) Treatment of 1993 Policy-

(1) TITLE 10- Upon the effective date established by subsection (b), chapter 37 of title 10, United States Code, is amended--

(A) by striking section 654; and

(B) in the table of sections at the beginning of such chapter, by striking the item relating to section 654.

(2) CONFORMING AMENDMENT- Upon the effective date established by subsection (b), section 571 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1994 (10 U.S.C. 654 note) is amended by striking subsections (b), (c), and (d).
 
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