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'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

It has to do with living in close proximity to those of the same sex who may find you sexually desirable. That would be something I wouldn't want to even know about.

Why wouldn't you want to know about it?
 
There is another vote scheduled for tomorrow. It should be quite interesting.
 
I would not fully trust that guy to not act on his attraction.

What does you knowing he is gay have to do with him acting on his attraction?

Aren't you afraid that everyone might act on their attraction since you would rather not know?
 
What does you knowing he is gay have to do with him acting on his attraction?

Aren't you afraid that everyone might act on their attraction since you would rather not know?
If it's a guy, I would rather just assume he's not attracted to me, if it's a woman, I would rather assume that she is.
 
If it's a guy, I would rather just assume he's not attracted to me, if it's a woman, I would rather assume that she is.

Even Rosie O'Donnel? :lol:

You can assume a gay guy is not attracted to you. I got married so now I assume that all women are not attracted to me. That's how I eliminate temptation. I don't play the dangerous, "I wonder if I could..." game.
 
If it's a guy, I would rather just assume he's not attracted to me, if it's a woman, I would rather assume that she is.

Have you ever hit on a woman before?
 
Have you ever hit on a woman before?
No, but I have approached women with the hopes of developing a meaning relationship founded on mutual respect.
 
Even Rosie O'Donnel? :lol:

You can assume a gay guy is not attracted to you. I got married so now I assume that all women are not attracted to me. That's how I eliminate temptation. I don't play the dangerous, "I wonder if I could..." game.
That would be easier if all women were Rosie O'Donnell.
 
No, but I have approached women with the hopes of developing a meaning relationship founded on mutual respect.

And when you approached this woman with the hopes of developing a meaning[ful] relationship founded on mutual respect, did it ever occur to you that there might be a chance that she wasn't interested in talking to you?
 
And when you approached this woman with the hopes of developing a meaning[ful] relationship founded on mutual respect, did it ever occur to you that there might be a chance that she wasn't interested in talking to you?
Never crossed my mind. J/k, of course it occurred to me, but I had to try. In the case of a guy, I don't even want him trying.
 
Never crossed my mind. J/k, of course it occurred to me, but I had to try. In the case of a guy, I don't even want him trying.

And you don't see a double standard there? Why do women have to put up with being hit on approached in order to establish a meaningful relationship but men don't?
 
Never crossed my mind. J/k, of course it occurred to me, but I had to try. In the case of a guy, I don't even want him trying.

So the problem is that you are afraid to say "no thank you"? Or is the problem irrational fear?

By the way, did it ever occur to you that gays might not find you attractive?
 
So the problem is that you are afraid to say "no thank you"? Or is the problem irrational fear?

By the way, did it ever occur to you that gays might not find you attractive?

LOL.....I love the straight guys that think that gay guys would be interested in them. Have they ever been to West Hollywood...San Fran....Greenwich Village....etc?
Gay Guys generally have enough better looking guys to choose from.
 
LOL.....I love the straight guys that think that gay guys would be interested in them. Have they ever been to West Hollywood...San Fran....Greenwich Village....etc?
Gay Guys generally have enough better looking guys to choose from.

That depends too. There are various subcultures within gays. Some are not the pretty boy West Hollywood gays, just as most lesbians are not lipstick lesbians.
 
And you don't see a double standard there? Why do women have to put up with being hit on approached in order to establish a meaningful relationship but men don't?
No, it would be a double standard if I was bothered by women hitting on men. If I went to a lesbian pride rally and hit on a woman, would it be a double standard for her to be bothered by me hitting on her since, presumably, she's okay with being hit on by women?
 
So the problem is that you are afraid to say "no thank you"?
I don't know that "no thank you" is all I'd say.

Or is the problem irrational fear?
Fear? I don't think that's it, but I'll be honest and admit for me, there's a definite ick factor. I just don't want gay guys hitting on me.

By the way, did it ever occur to you that gays might not find you attractive?
That's want I want to believe and I wouldn't want to be dispelled of that belief.
 
No, it would be a double standard if I was bothered by women hitting on men. If I went to a lesbian pride rally and hit on a woman, would it be a double standard for her to be bothered by me hitting on her since, presumably, she's okay with being hit on by women?

I suspect that some many/most gays are used to being hit on by straits. Are you unable to handle something they can.

You can thank me later for that line IT.
 
No, it would be a double standard if I was bothered by women hitting on men. If I went to a lesbian pride rally and hit on a woman, would it be a double standard for her to be bothered by me hitting on her since, presumably, she's okay with being hit on by women?

Funny how you try and hedge your bet with the lesbian rally scenario.

It's a double standard, dude. People don't have this automatic sense that the person they're about to hit on wants to be hit on. You're applying a different standard to yourself than to others.
 
I don't know that "no thank you" is all I'd say.

Fear? I don't think that's it, but I'll be honest and admit for me, there's a definite ick factor. I just don't want gay guys hitting on me.

That's want I want to believe and I wouldn't want to be dispelled of that belief.

So the problem is not gays, the problem is with you.
 
That depends too. There are various subcultures within gays. Some are not the pretty boy West Hollywood gays, just as most lesbians are not lipstick lesbians.

True....but the idea that gay men are interested in Straight men is usually a fantasy from a not very attractive straight guy.
 
Funny how you try and hedge your bet with the lesbian rally scenario.

It's a double standard, dude. People don't have this automatic sense that the person they're about to hit on wants to be hit on. You're applying a different standard to yourself than to others.
No I'm not. I promise never to hit on another guy.
 
So the problem is not gays, the problem is with you.
Okay, maybe so, but I know I'm not the only one who feels this way. I bet I'm not even in the minority so, when talking about DADT and the military, we have to deal in what is, and not what you think should be.

BTW, I didn't understand this.
You can thank me later for that line IT.
 
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Okay, maybe so, but I know I'm not the only one who feels this way. I bet I'm not even in the minority so, when talking about DADT and the military, we have to deal in what is, and not what you think should be.

I bet you have no evidence you are not in a very small minority. I bet most our young people these days can handle being hit on by some one of the gender they are not attracted too quite easily. I bet saying "no thank you" is pretty easy, and the more attractive gay men and women frequently have to say it to both genders...and handle it.
 
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