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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The ones who presented the finding to Congress. SecDef and Chairman JCS. The top of the military.
    Yet the actual Field Commanders have a different opinion so who to believe? Hmmmm........

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No one asked, he was "outed". He was discharged. The machines where government, but people where allowed to use them for personal email. Would you have been discharged for sending a love letter to your wife under the same circumstances?
    You really don't like rules, do you? this all volunteer military has rules that if someone doesn't like them then don't enlist. DADT has been in place for 17 years and now all of a sudden this is a huge issue for you.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well, let's look at one example: An Air Force officer(?) was discharged because some one read his email over his shoulder and saw he was gay. Things like that would stop happening. Gays would no longer have to worry about accidentally slipping and saying the wrong thing, could bring partners to command family events and introduce them as such. The list goes on and on.
    That officer shouldn't have been, "putting in writing", his sexual orientation, while on duty. Any officer that is that stupid, is probably too stupid to be an officer.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No one asked, he was "outed". He was discharged. The machines where government, but people where allowed to use them for personal email. Would you have been discharged for sending a love letter to your wife under the same circumstances?
    You're right, no one asked, but he, "told".
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No one asked, he was "outed". He was discharged. The machines where government, but people where allowed to use them for personal email. Would you have been discharged for sending a love letter to your wife under the same circumstances?

    I never used government computers for personal communication. Far too paranoid...


    So no one asked, and no one told. He had to admit to it. there has to be more to the story here.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yet the actual Field Commanders have a different opinion so who to believe? Hmmmm........
    You seem confused as to how this works. The guys at the top, they make decisions, the guys below implement them. Further, it's not all field commanders, it's a couple who still oppose. I understand, as long as you can find one person opposed, you will use that person to claim that it is controversial, when really, for the most part, at this point in time, it's not.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That officer shouldn't have been, "putting in writing", his sexual orientation, while on duty. Any officer that is that stupid, is probably too stupid to be an officer.
    You seem to have missed the point. The point was that a strait soldier would not have been discharged. It's a double standard that serves no purpose, and leads to those who are gay having additional difficulties that straits do not while serving. Lastly, it was not stupid, as personal emails where allowed on the computer, and where to be considered confidential.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're right, no one asked, but he, "told".
    No, he was caught.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I never used government computers for personal communication. Far too paranoid...


    So no one asked, and no one told. He had to admit to it. there has to be more to the story here.
    The emails where used to be considered a "tell". That is the problem, the list of things that are considered a tell. You would not accept living under those constraints, nor would I. It goes far beyond just having to never say "I am gay".
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You seem confused as to how this works. The guys at the top, they make decisions, the guys below implement them. Further, it's not all field commanders, it's a couple who still oppose. I understand, as long as you can find one person opposed, you will use that person to claim that it is controversial, when really, for the most part, at this point in time, it's not.
    Sorry, but the one confused is you, this is a 17 year law that now all of a sudden has become a major issue for a very small percentage of people who make this the centerpoint in their life all the while ignoring that Obama had a filibuster proof Senate for part of his term and never brought the issue up. Looks like it is going to be repealed anyway so that 2% of the military can tout their sexuality. Sure makes me feel safer and economically stronger. Hope you feel better!

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