Page 70 of 163 FirstFirst ... 2060686970717280120 ... LastLast
Results 691 to 700 of 1624

Thread: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

  1. #691
    Sporadic insanity normal.


    The Mark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 01:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    19,736

    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    To recap this whole thing as I understand it (since as everyone knows, MY opinion is highly respected and followed...right):

    Congress suggests a bill that would eliminate DADT.

    Military says "hold up a sec, we want to run a question form past the troops to see how they would react to this" (since it's the military, they don't ask their subordinates whether or not they should issue a given order, but rather what they would do if said order was issued, and how it would affect their plans, etc. And even then, it's only because this is such a far-reaching type of order.).

    Congress says, "sure, that makes sense" (I agreed with that part).

    Military comes back with "well, looks like most of our troops don't give much of a damn."

    Congress says, "we won't support this plan."

    I say, WTF?!?!
    Education.

    Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering. ~ R. Buckminster Fuller

  2. #692
    Bus Driver to Hell
    Thorgasm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Last Seen
    12-06-17 @ 11:17 AM
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    68,191

    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I intelligently answered that democrats delayed repealing DADT to wait for the DOD report on the request of republicans. I have mentioned that to you about a dozen times. How do you keep missing that?
    Did you type it very slowly?

    That might have been the problem.
    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Being a psychiatric patient does not mean that you are mentally ill.



  3. #693
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,219

    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    To recap this whole thing as I understand it (since as everyone knows, MY opinion is highly respected and followed...right):

    Congress suggests a bill that would eliminate DADT.

    Military says "hold up a sec, we want to run a question form past the troops to see how they would react to this" (since it's the military, they don't ask their subordinates whether or not they should issue a given order, but rather what they would do if said order was issued, and how it would affect their plans, etc. And even then, it's only because this is such a far-reaching type of order.).

    Congress says, "sure, that makes sense" (I agreed with that part).

    Military comes back with "well, looks like most of our troops don't give much of a damn."

    Congress says, "we won't support this plan."

    I say, WTF?!?!
    Perhaps someone clued the Democrats in, that if DADT was lifted, gay soldiers wouldn't have any protection.

    There seems to be a huge misinterpretation as to what DADT is and the actual ban on gays in the military. I think it's a basic lack of understtanding about the las standing order and what not.

    In my opinion, the Joint Chiefs were suckering the Dems.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  4. #694
    Bus Driver to Hell
    Thorgasm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Last Seen
    12-06-17 @ 11:17 AM
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    68,191

    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Perhaps someone clued the Democrats in, that if DADT was lifted, gay soldiers wouldn't have any protection.

    There seems to be a huge misinterpretation as to what DADT is and the actual ban on gays in the military. I think it's a basic lack of understtanding about the las standing order and what not.

    In my opinion, the Joint Chiefs were suckering the Dems.
    Who requested the Pentagon report on DADT?
    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Being a psychiatric patient does not mean that you are mentally ill.



  5. #695
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,219

    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Who requested the Pentagon report on DADT?
    Why did they wait until after the mid-terms to issue their findings?

    I got a better question: why are DADT abolitionists only concentrating on DADT and not Defense Directive 1332? DoD Directive 1332, as the last standing order, will immediately take effect, upon the repeal of DADT (DoD Directive 1304). To my knowledge, 1332 hasn't been withdrawn. Without whitdrawinf, or countermanding 1332 and changing the UCMJ, you've only made things worse for gays serving in the military.

    I think someone probably advised the Dems of the mistake they were fixing to make. I've purdy much been saying this all along, but hey, I only spent 12 years in the Army, attaining the rank of E-7. What could I possibly know about the regulations, what they say and how the system works. Right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  6. #696
    User Power's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Tennessee
    Last Seen
    12-14-10 @ 09:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    84

    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There's no need for them to shove it down peoples's throats, either. No point whatsoever.

    But, all them homohpobes have to be made to accept it, whether they like it, or not.

    At the end of the day, that's really what it's all about.
    Since when is not having to hide an aspect of the self "shoving it down peoples's throats"? Are you shoving your own agenda down people's throats by openly stating your opinion that they shouldn't shove THEIR agenda down people's throats? No, you're just being honest about it.
    Whenever people seem to either completely love you, or whether they utterly hate you, you know you must be doin' it right.

  7. #697
    Sage
    Conservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 09:13 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    67,249

    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That has what to do with DADT?
    Ask Independent thinker who posted the link

  8. #698
    Sage
    Conservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 09:13 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    67,249

    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So you cannot back up your own claim?
    How Many Gay People Are There? - Gay Population Statistics

  9. #699
    Sage
    CriticalThought's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:12 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    18,121

    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    2006 American Community Survey? That is a bit out of date. According to the findings from the largest nationally representative study of sexual and sexual-health behaviors ever fielded that was released just this year, "7% of adult women and 8% of men identify as gay, lesbian or bisexual" which means we are talking closer to 21 million people. Given that this study was specifically geared towards studying sexual behavior and ensuring that its results were nationally representative, I feel pretty good about its findings.

    National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior

  10. #700
    Sage
    Conservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 09:13 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    67,249

    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    2006 American Community Survey? That is a bit out of date. According to the findings from the largest nationally representative study of sexual and sexual-health behaviors ever fielded that was released just this year, "7% of adult women and 8% of men identify as gay, lesbian or bisexual" which means we are talking closer to 21 million people. Given that this study was specifically geared towards studying sexual behavior and ensuring that its results were nationally representative, I feel pretty good about its findings.

    National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior
    21 million Americans out of 310 million is 7% of the population. Thanks for the latest survey and although 21 million is a large number in the overall population it remains relatively small.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •