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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Hey, who knows, it gets reversed and we lose a lot of posters here as I am sure they will willingly join the military to serve this great nation, but I doubt it. Since when did the will of the people matter to liberals? Liberals don't like the will of the people, they go to the courts to get it overturned.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well, since it cannot get past a republican filibuster, I think that answers your question pretty easily. Democratic mistake was trying to be reasonable on the issue and actually doing the right thing in sending it for a review of the DoD/Pentagon.
    So again, what exactly did the GOP prevent Obama from implementing? Maybe had they done a better job Democrats wouldn't have taken a shellacking in November.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I brought it up in the context of the thread. You went to a whole nother place.
    Don't ask those kinds of questions, if you don't want to be challenged. Obviously, you said loud and clear what you really think of the will of the people. Nevermind that repealling DADT isn't, "the will of the people".
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You can prove this charge? I am sure you can since you made it. You would never make a wild unsubstantiated charge...
    Not a charge. An observation and an opinion, based on that observation. I can look at things from a multi-demensional point of view, unlike, well, you know.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    What does the military actually believe Redress. I never served in the military so I am not going to suggest DADT or its repeal is either good for the military or they support it. Seems silly to get rid of well trained people-especially ones that aren't say sharing a foxhole or submarine bunk with other men. As I believe I noted many many posts ago, our law school had a librarian who had been a top graduate of Annapolis. ONe day we were sitting around shooting the bull and I asked the guy why he left the navy.

    He said he got booted for being gay. I didn't know the rules so I said-why? He said "the navy thought I could be blackmailed by being gay" SO I said how can you be blackmailed if you were not hiding it? He said-well that was what I thought too.

    after that I sort of figured the rules-especially with out of the closet guys-was stupid. Its also stupid. FOr example, I used to date a bi-sexual woman. She and I remain threads. at 25-30-when we dated, she was very feminine and only people who were very very close to her knew she was bi. NOw in her mid 40's she is involved in a lesbian domestic relationship. She's also in the army. I am sure that most of those she serves with knows this. But no one asks. What a silly facade.
    Honestly, what the military believes depends on who in the military you ask. It's not some absolute thing. Opinions vary from person to person. What the military has found out is that repeal of DADT would be relatively painless(note relatively does not mean entirely) and should not effect readiness overall. Since the argument used against repeal was that it would hurt readiness, that finding alone, along with shifts in attitudes both in the military and the country at large make this an appropriate time to get it done.

    The rules, as you point out, are stupid. We can get rid of those stupid rules without hurting our military.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Don't ask those kinds of questions, if you don't want to be challenged. Obviously, you said loud and clear what you really think of the will of the people. Nevermind that repealling DADT isn't, "the will of the people".

    Polls seem to support the idea that the will of the people does support repeal.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Not a charge. An observation and an opinion, based on that observation. I can look at things from a multi-demensional point of view, unlike, well, you know.
    So you think it's true just because you want it to be true, with no actual backing evidence. Got it.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So again, what exactly did the GOP prevent Obama from implementing? Maybe had they done a better job Democrats wouldn't have taken a shellacking in November.
    It's been answered repeatedly: The democrats made the mistake of trying to work with republicans. Can you show any evidence at all this was an issue that worked against democrats in November, or is it just a random comment designed to draw attention away from your continuing to dodge facts?
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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    Hilarious ain't it?

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Hey, who knows, it gets reversed and we lose a lot of posters here as I am sure they will willingly join the military to serve this great nation, but I doubt it. Since when did the will of the people matter to liberals? Liberals don't like the will of the people, they go to the courts to get it overturned.
    So you are saying that Obama is NOT a liberal.
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