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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post


    You are obviously being dishonest. They were waiting for the Pentagon report. They were being reasonable. Here, I'll provide you a link: Reasonable - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
    Anyone else ever notice that the Joint Chiefs drug their feet and played along, as long as they could? Waiting for the inevitable Republican takeover, perhaps? After which, the Chiefs can say, "Aw hell! The Republicans will never repeal DADT! Oh well, we tried, didn't we? *wink wink*".
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Do you support the repeal of DADT.
    No, but I support lifting the ban on gays serving in the military. I believe that DADT should be left in place--at least for the time being--so as to prevent discrimination.

    BTW this thread is about DADT not Obamacare.
    You're the one that brought up he will of the people. I was giving you a chance to save your credibility. So, do you support Obamacare? If you do, then you know what that means.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, but I support lifting the ban on gays serving in the military. I believe that DADT should be left in place--at least for the time being--so as to prevent discrimination.



    You're the one that brought up he will of the people. I was giving you a chance to save your credibility. So, do you support Obamacare? If you do, then you know what that means.

    I brought it up in the context of the thread. You went to a whole nother place.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The majority doesn't make the rules for the military, Congress does and right now DADT is a law put into place in 1993 by Bill Clinton and a Democrat Congress.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Civics doesn't appear to be a strong suit of yours nor is actual history. Democrats had a super majority in the House and huge numbers in the Senate including a filibuster proof Senate for a number of months yet you bought the leftwing rhetoric. Apparently there isn't a lot of non partisan news in Illinois.
    Do you think repeating the same refuted arguments will make them right somehow, or people will believe you?
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why is this such a big deal with you? For me I don't care as long as it doesn't result in mass retirements and weaken our military which at this time no one knows. The number one responsibility of the U.S. Govt. is to "Provide for the Common Defense" so as long as this issue doesn't affect our defense, it really isn't on my radar.
    If you don't care, why are you posting so much about it?
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Thanks for the definition but that doesn't answer my question, what exactly was it that the Republicans prevented Obama from doing?
    Well, since it cannot get past a republican filibuster, I think that answers your question pretty easily. Democratic mistake was trying to be reasonable on the issue and actually doing the right thing in sending it for a review of the DoD/Pentagon.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Anyone else ever notice that the Joint Chiefs drug their feet and played along, as long as they could? Waiting for the inevitable Republican takeover, perhaps? After which, the Chiefs can say, "Aw hell! The Republicans will never repeal DADT! Oh well, we tried, didn't we? *wink wink*".
    You can prove this charge? I am sure you can since you made it. You would never make a wild unsubstantiated charge...
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The will of the people, the will of the people...except when we don't agree with the will of the people.
    Hey, who knows, it gets reversed and we lose a lot of posters here as I am sure they will willingly join the military to serve this great nation, but I doubt it. Since when did the will of the people matter to liberals? Liberals don't like the will of the people, they go to the courts to get it overturned.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You can prove this charge? I am sure you can since you made it. You would never make a wild unsubstantiated charge...
    What does the military actually believe Redress. I never served in the military so I am not going to suggest DADT or its repeal is either good for the military or they support it. Seems silly to get rid of well trained people-especially ones that aren't say sharing a foxhole or submarine bunk with other men. As I believe I noted many many posts ago, our law school had a librarian who had been a top graduate of Annapolis. ONe day we were sitting around shooting the bull and I asked the guy why he left the navy.

    He said he got booted for being gay. I didn't know the rules so I said-why? He said "the navy thought I could be blackmailed by being gay" SO I said how can you be blackmailed if you were not hiding it? He said-well that was what I thought too.

    after that I sort of figured the rules-especially with out of the closet guys-was stupid. The whole rule-Its also stupid. FOr example, I used to date a bi-sexual woman. She and I remain friendss. at 25-30-when we dated, she was very feminine and only people who were very very close to her knew she was bi. NOw in her mid 40's she is involved in a lesbian domestic relationship. She's also in the army. I am sure that most of those she serves with knows this. But no one asks. What a silly facade.
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