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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Like I said, I think some make a choice, and some do not - the specifics never bothered me since I decided that it doesn't really matter to me which is the reason for it.

    But interesting, nonetheless.
    Homosexuals on a large scale are discriminated against in almost every country, if not every. What person would choose to be discriminated against and looked down upon by a large amount of the population? I think there is nothing wrong with homosexuality, even if it is a choice. But lets think rationally here and not disregard science either...
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by WeAreReborn View Post
    Homosexuals on a large scale are discriminated against in almost every country, if not every. What person would choose to be discriminated against and looked down upon. I think there is nothing wrong with homosexuality, even if it is a choice. But lets think rationally here and not disregard science either...
    I'm sure some would - there's no accounting for some decisions humans make - we're a crazy people
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Obviously, a gay person could make the choice to cease being gay (at least, in terms of actions). If they were somehow genetically/hormonally/whatever gay, it would be going against their nature - but when has that stopped a determined person?
    But that would make them truly unhappy and is unnatural. That is like a straight man being forced into homosexual acts and relationships. The straight man would be resentful and unhappy. Why can't homosexuals just be themselves and be accepted? If someone is intolerant we should change their opinion not cater to this ignorance and irrationality.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by WeAreReborn View Post
    But that would make them truly unhappy and is unnatural. That is like a straight man being forced into homosexual acts and relationships. The straight man would be resentful and unhappy. Why can't homosexuals just be themselves and be accepted? If someone is intolerant we should change their opinion not cater to this ignorance and irrationality.
    Right, that's why I disagree with it.

    I'm just pointing out that, while accurate if looked at from JUST the right angle, the "it's a choice" mantra is a total steaming load of BS.

    Sure, it's a choice...but if (as seems highly likely) a good percentage of those who are gay are naturally that way, who the hell would want to MAKE that choice?

    I suppose, if you believe that god thinks homosexuality is a sin, and you naturally feel homosexual…

    But what a ****ed up situation…
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by qwertyuiop View Post
    Lets face it. The only reason the Republicans blocked this bill was homophobia. They aren't going to say it, but it is true. 10% of people are gay. Face it. I have quite a few gay friends, and I can tell you, Navy Pride, they would think you are a disgusting human being. There is no logical reason that we shouldn't repeal DADT. We have a huge deficit of translators because of DADT. War Heros have been kicked out of the military for being gay. It is utterly ridiculous that this is still a problem. And you are extremely foolish if you say that the issue is dead. There is a bill being reintroduced as we type. And if the reason is homophobia, let me clue you in. Gay people are NO DIFFERENT FROM YOU OR ME. THEY HAVE NO CONTROL OF THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION. It is a civil rights issue. And in 100 years, if the US is still around, students in school are going to be asking, "What the hell was wrong with those guys? Didn't they realize that homosexuality was just like skin color and people had no control over it?" And their teachers response will be, "Yes, some of them did. But some ignorant people chose to ignore the science and rely on a book written 2000 years ago." Get educated
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You lefties never get tired of playing the homophote, bigot or race card.........
    Why does the GOP hate our troops? Isn't this like the first time in 48 years that Congress voted to not fund our troops.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You lefties never get tired of playing the homophote, bigot or race card.........
    Not if it is absolutely 100% true and you know it is. Give me a valid argument against the repeal that isn't "I'm not a homophobe. Playing the 'bigot card' is unfair!" And how on earth am I playing the "race card?" Homosexuals aren't a race.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    It's only a matter of time. Plenty other discriminatory laws have been enforced and later repealed in our military.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Why does the GOP hate our troops? Isn't this like the first time in 48 years that Congress voted to not fund our troops.
    GOP caters to their fundraisers and Democrats cater to theirs. Neither are for or against anything, except themselves. They're very for themselves.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    yeah, homophobia still alive and well...

    Go America!

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