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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    There's no need to "refute" anything. The Military Times and DoD poll found the same result on the question of interest. If DADT is repealed, almost a quarter of the military will says it will leave or think about leaving the military sooner than they had planned.



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    Question 81. If Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell is repealed, how, if at all, will your military career plans be affected?
    • I will leave sooner than I had planned: 12.6%
    • I will think about leaving sooner than I had planned: 11.1%

    If anything, the DoD results are even more concerning than those from the Military Times.
    That is not really a question of interest though. Similar results where found in UK when they considered allowing gays to serve, and they suffered no problems in retention when they did allow gays to serve. It is not a big deal question.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is not really a question of interest though. Similar results where found in UK when they considered allowing gays to serve, and they suffered no problems in retention when they did allow gays to serve. It is not a big deal question.
    It's a question of interest because it's basically the only way these guys can keep their bleeding fingernail hold on this issue they're so clearly in the minority on.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is not really a question of interest though.
    Of course it is.

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    Similar results where found in UK when they considered allowing gays to serve, and they suffered no problems in retention when they did allow gays to serve. It is not a big deal question.
    No -- no such poll results were found in the UK before they made the transition.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is not really a question of interest though. Similar results where found in UK when they considered allowing gays to serve, and they suffered no problems in retention when they did allow gays to serve. It is not a big deal question.
    It's probably one of those questions that people KNOW will have an effect, so even if they most likely won't leave sooner or think about leaving sooner, they still answer that way cause they're opposed to the change...

    You can't possibly tell me with a straight face that people are completely truthfull in all respects when answering a poll.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    People answer this way on a poll, but when it actually comes down to it, they just deal with it.
    No, there's no evidence to support that claim.

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    Besides, there are already gay people serving and Gates made sure DADT is effectively dead already, so why are we even still bothering to keep it around?
    Oh, I dunno. How much longer are we going to keep Gates around?

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I can try and dig up the source for this, but an estimated I think 1 million gay soldiers starting with Korea have served in the US military. They did not go back further since data was increasingly hard to get.
    LOL

    And 48.6 percent of all statistics are made up.

    How could anyone know this?

    LOL

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Of course it is.


    No -- no such poll results were found in the UK before they made the transition.
    So what you're telling me is that American soldiers are uniquely homophobic. Ok.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    LOL

    And 48.6 percent of all statistics are made up.

    How could anyone know this?

    LOL
    I'm wondering something along those lines myself...

    Once DADT and all restrictions on military membership based on sexual preference and the like are removed - How many gay people will it be revealed were and are serving in the military?

    More than you think, I'm guessing.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So what you're telling me is that American soldiers are uniquely homophobic. Ok.
    It's possible. I think Americans in general are more homophobic than many areas of the world (but by no means all).

    I am wondering, though... No one ever compares the US military to, say, Iran’s military in this area…
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So what you're telling me is that American soldiers are uniquely homophobic. Ok.
    What I'm telling you is that there is no evidence for your claim. Feel free to prove me wrong.

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