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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The process is in the courts now, and the first step of that process is finished, with DADT losing in the courts. Repeal by congress would be faster and better, ie the current law and DoD directives are reworded, and the military is given time to prepare for the changes before the law takes effect.
    The military won't implode either way yet the passion for repeal is quite high right now. You don't like the rules, don't enlist. Seems like a concept that you can't understand.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The military won't implode either way yet the passion for repeal is quite high right now. You don't like the rules, don't enlist. Seems like a concept that you can't understand.
    If you don't like the rules, work to change them. That is the American process in action. I am not sure why you cannot understand this.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    WTF, this thread sprouted 20+ pages since I was here yesterday?

    Well, since I was unwilling to read all the words, I scanned em'.
    So.

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    Regarding the statement I've seen multiple times (paraphrased), "DADT is the rule of the military at this time, and if gay persons don't want to deal with it, they shouldn't join."

    That's just pure BS. I am 100% sure that there are multiple gay persons who have joined the US military dispite DADT, because they, along with (I believe) the majority of military members, consider it their calling/duty to fight for our great country.

    They are WILLING to put up with the BS that is DADT, so they can do this.

    But the fact that they have to is obviously unfair. Fair would be "Well, you've joined the military. In regards to sexual matters, you are NOT allowed to sexually harass/molest other military members, END OF STORY."

    As it currently stands, its equivalent to telling the heterosexual members of the military "We don't want to know who you sleep with, we don't care about your significant other and/or children, and if you die your family is **** out of luck." Since I think everyone would agree that such would be a detriment to moral, the military doesn't do such - except too their gay members...

    As I see it, most heterosexual members of the military realize this, and because the moral of their brothers and sisters in arms is of concern to them, among other reasons, they support removing any limitations on military membership by sexual preference and the like.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    WTF, this thread sprouted 20+ pages since I was here yesterday?
    Don't feel bad, I spent yesterday till this morning at my mothers, and I get home to find the thread was huge and pretty over the top. Thankfully things have cooled down some now and it's a decent discussion.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Why do people insist on all these labels?
    I'm not the one assigning the labels. The folks who believed that allowing soldiers to vote is some sort of conflict of interest, were self identified liberals. I've never heard a conservative advocate for such a thing.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    If you don't like the rules, work to change them. That is the American process in action. I am not sure why you cannot understand this.
    Totally and completely understand the rules and the current rules now are preventing DADT from being repealed. It isn't going to happen.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Totally and completely understand the rules and the current rules now are preventing DADT from being repealed. It isn't going to happen.
    The current rules are not what is preventing DADT from being repealed. A lack of votes is. That will likely change. Maybe tomorrow, maybe next year, probably within the next 3 years.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I'm not the one assigning the labels. The folks who believed that allowing soldiers to vote is some sort of conflict of interest, were self identified liberals. I've never heard a conservative advocate for such a thing.
    Where did some one say soldiers should not vote?
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Equal protection does exist in the military.
    You sure about this? Women are allowed in special forces and infantry now?

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    You sure about this? Women are allowed in special forces and infantry now?
    There are three standards for the application of Equal Protection. I suggest reading up on the topic.
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