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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    My bet is you were very young when this passed in the first place but the fact remains it has been in place for 17 years. What problems has it cost in those 17 years? Sounds to me like just another radical cause by a bunch of malcontents.
    i see, desiring equal rights is somehow being a malcontent.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Why were they discharged - do you have an example?
    One, that I know of, was discharged because she choose to out herself. She was tired of being afraid that the wrong person would find out she was gay and have enough clout to get her discharged. Along with that, she wanted more for her partner. She had to work with people who were married and receiving benefits for their partners, while her partner could not be given those same benefits because some people don't approve of her relationship. She found a better job that actually did provide benefits for her partner. I talked to her before she actually left the ship. She told me that she would have stayed in if the military would just treat her like they do the straight people. It is sad and wrong that our government discriminates against people because others do not approve of their relationships.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Because opinions on the topic have shifted to the point where it is feasible and safe to do the right thing.
    No, IMO it has shifted only to the point that the malcontent radicals just want another issue to whine and complain about. These radicals need to get a job. DADT has been in effect for 17 years and hasn't caused any major problems. There are a lot more important issues than this. DADT is dead for the next two years.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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    Wrong, pay attention to the scientific poll of the troops, not the one that is not scientific and has severe flaws in methodology and reliability.
    Did you know there are liberals that argue that troops shouldn't even be allowed to vote? Just an aside.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i see, desiring equal rights is somehow being a malcontent.
    Yep, when it involves the all volunteer military and doesn't affect you. Your rights aren't being usurped. If you don't like the policy don't enlist.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    My bet is you were very young when this passed in the first place but the fact remains it has been in place for 17 years. What problems has it cost in those 17 years? Sounds to me like just another radical cause by a bunch of malcontents.
    I think those who have served with distinction and honor, but have been discharged via this policy, might differ in their opinion. It's certainly caused them problems.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    My bet is you were very young when this passed in the first place but the fact remains it has been in place for 17 years. What problems has it cost in those 17 years? Sounds to me like just another radical cause by a bunch of malcontents.
    I was 13. Old enough to know that it was a compromise that was still not completely fair.

    A person fighting for equality will always be considered a "malcontent" by those who are fighting to keep bigotry and discrimination in place.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yep, when it involves the all volunteer military and doesn't affect you. Your rights aren't being usurped. If you don't like the policy don't enlist.
    gays should have the right to enlist and serve openly. i'm sorry you don't see it that way.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Did you know there are liberals that argue that troops shouldn't even be allowed to vote? Just an aside.
    The troops should have just as much say in public policy as any one else. Active duty and vets(and I am a vet) do not get an extra voice in making policy. I supported, as did many liberals, the DoD doing an investigation into repealing DADT. That part is done now. The DoD(ie, the military) has determined that it is safely doable to repeal DADT.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Did you know there are liberals that argue that troops shouldn't even be allowed to vote? Just an aside.
    Why do people insist on all these labels?

    And there are also some Republicans who would disenfranchise our troops as well, if they had their way.

    Personally, I believe that only people who have done some form of military or civil service should be allowed to vote or hold office, but that's just me.
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