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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The military isn't going to implode regardless of the outcome so the passion on both sides IMO is ridiculous. What agenda are the radicals on the right pushing, the law is the law and it has worked for 17 years, why change it. rogue, this has been in place since 1993 so obviously it hasn't hurt anyone so why now?
    Tell that to the people who have been discharged from the military because of this law.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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    It has been the law since 1993 so tell me why now there is such passion for repeal? Radical passion is indeed fascinating as there is no personal benefit or harm on either side for most of those with that passion.
    Equal rights is something everyone should be passionate about.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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    Tell that to the people who have been discharged from the military because of this law.
    Why were they discharged - do you have an example?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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    Tell that to the people who have been discharged from the military because of this law.
    Family members? your outrage is misguided unless it affects you. Don't give me any bs about caring about the military. Did you ever serve? I have, my family members have and until you have you don' tknow what you are talking about but that doesn't stop you from ranting.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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    The military isn't going to implode regardless of the outcome so the passion on both sides IMO is ridiculous. What agenda are the radicals on the right pushing, the law is the law and it has worked for 17 years, why change it. rogue, this has been in place since 1993 so obviously it hasn't hurt anyone so why now?
    I would have preferred that no rules against gays serving had ever been put into place. I have wanted this for a long time, since even before I joined the military. It is not like I just suddenly decided to jump on a band wagon here. But it is being fought for so hard right now, because there is a good chance that it can get repealed right now, as it should be. There is still a chance that it could be repealed in the next 2 years, but the best chance to get it done is now. It would mean one less issue that either side is fighting about too.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Equal rights is something everyone should be passionate about.
    Equal rights in the military are up to the military to decide, not someone outside. Our military isn't going to implode regardless of the outcome. This law has been in effect since 1993 so why now all of a sudded this passion? You want to serve in the military, does so but keep quiet about your sexuality.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    In other words, pay no attention to those troops.
    Wrong, pay attention to the scientific poll of the troops, not the one that is not scientific and has severe flaws in methodology and reliability.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I would have preferred that no rules against gays serving had ever been put into place. I have wanted this for a long time, since even before I joined the military. It is not like I just suddenly decided to jump on a band wagon here. But it is being fought for so hard right now, because there is a good chance that it can get repealed right now, as it should be. There is still a chance that it could be repealed in the next 2 years, but the best chance to get it done is now. It would mean one less issue that either side is fighting about too.
    My bet is you were very young when this passed in the first place but the fact remains it has been in place for 17 years. What problems has it cost in those 17 years? Sounds to me like just another radical cause by a bunch of malcontents.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It has been the law since 1993 so tell me why now there is such passion for repeal? Radical passion is indeed fascinating as there is no personal benefit or harm on either side for most of those with that passion.
    Because opinions on the topic have shifted to the point where it is feasible and safe to do the right thing.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    My bet is you were very young when this passed in the first place but the fact remains it has been in place for 17 years. What problems has it cost in those 17 years? Sounds to me like just another radical cause by a bunch of malcontents.
    Or it could be people who think this is the right thing to do for moral, ethical and the longterm good of the military, while those opposed are just doing it out of an inability to handle certain segments of society that make them feel funny. See how easy it is to dismiss other people like you did?
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