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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    ...but the majority of the military says it wont make a difference. Oh, wait, you meant you "prefer leaving this to the all volunteer military who agrees with your opinion to make the decision!"
    Looks to me like the Congress is speaking as well, oh, wait, it doesn't support your position therefore obviously it is wrong. DADT is dead, live with it.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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    Didn't you get tossed for the name calling before? It is your opinion that discouraging talented homosexuals from enlisting is a bad thing, but it isn't hurting recruiting. There is no evidence that a gay person is any more qualified than the individuals being recruited and filling those positions.
    YES, now you have it.

    Why would any agency want to discourage talent from joining its ranks? Why would anyone want the military to wear that albatross around its neck?

    And yes, I've been reprimanded before for name-calling. It's merely because I don't tolerate people speaking to me as though they're putting me in my place. If the moderators take issue, que sera, sera.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    There is absolutely no good reason any one of you can ever come up with, as to why a gay person shouldn't be able to serve openly in the military.

    In countries where Gays serve openly, I have never heard it was a reason someone wouldn't sign up.

    It's bull****.

    That's the word, I stick to it.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Looks to me like the Congress is speaking as well, oh, wait, it doesn't support your position therefore obviously it is wrong. DADT is dead, live with it.
    Those like MCCain who opposed it. Did so because he believed they had to study the effects of repealing it, and that the military had to say it was ok.

    Both those things have come back, and they say its fine.

    Why do you still oppose?

    People like you will live in the history books as the ones who stood against the right tide of history. Have fun in that place dinosaur.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    YES, now you have it.

    Why would any agency want to discourage talent from joining its ranks? Why would anyone want the military to wear that albatross around its neck?

    And yes, I've been reprimanded before for name-calling. It's merely because I don't tolerate people speaking to me as though they're putting me in my place. If the moderators take issue, que sera, sera.
    Because obviously they don't believe that the talented gay person is better than the straight person enlisting. The passion for this issue is absolutely amazing to me and the question is why? How does having a gay person in the military or not affect you?

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Those like MCCain who opposed it. Did so because he believed they had to study the effects of repealing it, and that the military had to say it was ok.

    Both those things have come back, and they say its fine.

    Why do you still oppose?

    People like you will live in the history books as the ones who stood against the right tide of history. Have fun in that place dinosaur.
    Whether I oppose it or not is irrelevant, I don't have a voice in the issue. I quite frankly support our military and leave that for them along with the Congress to decide. There are two things that I worry about, national security and the economy, nothing else matters. This to me is insignificant and better left to the military to decide.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What undermanned jobs are there that a gay recruit can do better than a straight?
    First I didn't say that gays will do any job better just because they are gay. Different people do some things better than others, it depends on the individual, not their sexuality.

    The Navy nuclear program is struggling to recruit people that are able to make it through the school and stay in. They are always undermanned. During my time in, I knew 3 nukes that were discharged under DADT. It costs a lot of money to just train a nuke, not including enlistment and reenlistment bonuses, plus nukes get E-4 within 6-8 months of joining automatically and special duty pay. That's a lot of money to lose because of a discriminatory policy.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
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    DADT says differently and isn't going to be repealed. how does that affect you?

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