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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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    Its an example you hack. Glad to see you can't actually address my post.
    Resorting to name calling goes no where.

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    Why can't a gay man or woman serve in the military?
    They can and they do.

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    Why is DADT a good thing?
    Because it's none of anyone elses business and they can be gay while the military doesn't ask about it (like they used to) as long as the gay person doesn't tell others about it and everyone can go on their merry way being oblivious. It's a win win.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    So should we implement Heterosexual Empowerment
    Since the majority in this country by a huge number aren't gay it would pass overwhelmingly

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It is in some undermanned jobs. And besides that, retention is generally more important than recruiting, so why shouldn't we be trying to keep the best people in the jobs that they are already trained to do?
    What undermanned jobs are there that a gay recruit can do better than a straight?

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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    Since the majority in this country by a huge number aren't gay it would pass overwhelmingly
    You have to be ****ing kidding me...

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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    So apparently that was your quote and you do believe DADT impacts recruiting? Apparently military leadership disagrees with you as do the recruiting results. Amazing that whenver there is a thread on homosexulality it brings out everyone here promoting that agenda. I prefer leaving this to the all volunteer military to make the decision and it does appear that DADT repeal is dead. Live with it.
    I'm not going to "live" with anything, you sanctimonious asshole.

    I didn't say anything about recruiting numbers. I stated, I feel correctly, that discouraging talented homosexuals from enlisting is a bad thing.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    I'm not going to "live" with anything, you sanctimonious asshole.

    I didn't say anything about recruiting numbers. I stated, I feel correctly, that discouraging talented homosexuals from enlisting is a bad thing.
    Didn't you get tossed for the name calling before? It is your opinion that discouraging talented homosexuals from enlisting is a bad thing, but it isn't hurting recruiting. There is no evidence that a gay person is any more qualified than the individuals being recruited and filling those positions.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So apparently that was your quote and you do believe DADT impacts recruiting? Apparently military leadership disagrees with you as do the recruiting results. Amazing that whenver there is a thread on homosexulality it brings out everyone here promoting that agenda. I prefer leaving this to the all volunteer military to make the decision and it does appear that DADT repeal is dead. Live with it.
    ...but the majority of the military says it wont make a difference. Oh, wait, you meant you "prefer leaving this to the all volunteer military who agrees with your opinion to make the decision!"

    "I don't want it" is not suficient grounds to deny people rights, even in the military. You have to show what harm granting those rights would cause, and the pentagon study clearly shows that there is no significant harm as ~90% of people who have served with homosexuals say it didn't make a difference or was positive.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Is that your role, to hire people? Maybe there are gays but probably since the vast majority in this country aren't gay, my bet is you can find someone equally or better qualified.
    No, on active duty, I was in one of those highly undermanned jobs. In fact, it is still so undermanned that I can get back in at the same paygrade right now if I wanted to, while other prior service are being turned away almost everywhere or at least have to wait over a year if they even are eligible, and most have to take a lower rank.

    And, no, there are not that many equally qualified or better people for most of those undermanned jobs. That is the point. The military wants to keep those that they have.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    There is absolutely no good reason any one of you can ever come up with, as to why a gay person shouldn't be able to serve openly in the military.

    In countries where Gays serve openly, I have never heard it was a reason someone wouldn't sign up.

    It's bull****.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by SirPwn4lot View Post
    Basement reference? Everyone calls everyone around here asshats. Reverend Hellhound did it just a few hrs ago.

    On the contrary, polls are often very accurate, given that they follow a certain set of guidelines, which Gallup does.

    I guess we can't trust any polls then, you can no longer claim that the American people are on your side, we have no idea what the population thinks about the next election, Obama's approval rating might be at 90% for all we know. The polls are so unreliable that there's routinely over 17% error, even though the 95% confidence interval for this poll is +/- 4%, who cares, lets just call it split down the middle.

    I still want a proper, statistical definition of "white trash", and stats showing that 80% of this category support the Democrats.

    I had no idea people like you existed until I came to this thread, I thought people at least tried to put truth before blind protection of their dogma. How naive I was.
    Oh, I exist, I assure you.

    White trash... Hmmm.. yeah tough to control for, that's for sure, but how about we lump the welfare loving crowd into one big category and call them all "trash". Now that can include blacks, Latino's, and whites. Now, be careful to control for the truly needy, these people don't count, and can skew your analysis.

    There are good polls, and there are poor ones. The first most important requisite for a good poll is the relative grasp those being polled have on the issue. As demonstrated here in this thread among what would normally be considered a fairly educated crowd, we see a large divergence and even disagreement over exactly what the issue is, or should be. Overlay that microcosm to the macrocosm of the "trash", and general voting public, and I suspect that this poll by Gallup isn't as accurate as it might seem, or declare.

    That's all I'm saying..


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