“I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.
"I don't want it" is not suficient grounds to deny people rights, even in the military. You have to show what harm granting those rights would cause, and the pentagon study clearly shows that there is no significant harm as ~90% of people who have served with homosexuals say it didn't make a difference or was positive.
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One of you will end up here next!
And, no, there are not that many equally qualified or better people for most of those undermanned jobs. That is the point. The military wants to keep those that they have.
"A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt
Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.
There is absolutely no good reason any one of you can ever come up with, as to why a gay person shouldn't be able to serve openly in the military.
In countries where Gays serve openly, I have never heard it was a reason someone wouldn't sign up.
That's the word, I stick to it.
White trash... Hmmm.. yeah tough to control for, that's for sure, but how about we lump the welfare loving crowd into one big category and call them all "trash". Now that can include blacks, Latino's, and whites. Now, be careful to control for the truly needy, these people don't count, and can skew your analysis.
There are good polls, and there are poor ones. The first most important requisite for a good poll is the relative grasp those being polled have on the issue. As demonstrated here in this thread among what would normally be considered a fairly educated crowd, we see a large divergence and even disagreement over exactly what the issue is, or should be. Overlay that microcosm to the macrocosm of the "trash", and general voting public, and I suspect that this poll by Gallup isn't as accurate as it might seem, or declare.
That's all I'm saying..
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