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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    then I suggest that you go back and look at what you posted. How is having DADT hurting the military?
    I didn't say that either, at least not to my knowledge. I simply stated that DADT affects civilians as well as the military, and that the military is not owed separate consideration with respect to policy.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by SirPwn4lot View Post
    Are you ABSOLUTELY INSANE?

    Firstly, what do you mean when you say "white trash", and how do you track this statistic?

    Secondly. The public opinion polls absolutely couldn't be clearer. Out of Democrats, Liberals, east, postgraduates, those who seldom attend church, moderates, those 18 to 29 years in age, those with some college, independents, women, midwesterners, those 30 to 49 years in age, west, college graduates, those 50 to 64 years in age, those who attend church nearly weekly, men, those over 65 years of age, those with a high school education or less, those who attend church weekly, the south, conservatives, and Republicans....

    Only ONE of those demographics doesn't have a majority in favor of repeal (Republicans). Only 6 (from 65+ years down) don't have a super-majority in favor. This might just be the clearest poll I've ever seen in my life (although I'm sure I could find others).

    The next time you whine about the American people not supporting something I'm linking this thread. You're also getting my vote for the next asshat of the year (sorry adpst). How anyone can POSSIBLY claim the American people wouldn't support this in a vote is entirely beyond me.

    I've officially lost hope in humanity.
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    POLL's are unreliable for SO many reasons, the statistical correlations are only as sound as the controls. My gut tells me that rednecks, in da hood balcks, and Latino's all would NOT be in favor of it, nor do I think any poll taken by active combat arms military would deliver the same result. Aside from my gut, on other issues pertaining to gays, the gays lose big time, and they lose not because of the republican vote, but because of the democratic vote. Take from that what you please.


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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    I didn't say that either, at least not to my knowledge. I simply stated that DADT affects civilians as well as the military, and that the military is not owed separate consideration with respect to policy.
    In Downturn, Military Reports Historic Recruiting Success - washingtonpost.com

    doesn't look like it is hurting recruiting.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Sounds a lot like the private business where I assure you that no one is irreplaceable. How long has DADT been in place? Anyone that joins the military does so as a personal choice and isn't forced into service. Calling it discriminatory is certainly an opinion, I call it living by the rules established.
    Bull ****ing ****.

    So lets say all the guys are sittin around in the Barracks talking about pussy, and if Jim the gay guy doesn't contribute, people will suspect he's gay, and he may be ostracized for not contributing, so now he has to make something up.

    I call that discriminatory.

    Just because its a rule. Doesn't make it right.

    We use to have some Jim Crow Rules, what were you gonna tell those people back then Conservative? Well it's the rules guys, if you don't like it, move north?

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Sounds a lot like the private business where I assure you that no one is irreplaceable. How long has DADT been in place? Anyone that joins the military does so as a personal choice and isn't forced into service. Calling it discriminatory is certainly an opinion, I call it living by the rules established.
    Maybe you should look at how much money the military has to offer people to sign up and reenlist for certain jobs, then get back to me about saying that people can be replaced. Sure they can be replaced, but the cost of replacing them goes up every time more people get out or are put out, and for any job that requires people with special skills or a very specific background proving that they can actually be trained in the field. That is more money that us, the taxpayers, have to pay in order to keep a discriminatory policy in place. Like I said, a waste of money.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII DIIIIIIIIIIIIIID NOOOOOOOOOOOT SAAAAAAY THAAAAAAAAAAT.

    Jesus Christ on a ****ing cross, what is wrong with you?

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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    Bull ****ing ****.

    So lets say all the guys are sittin around in the Barracks talking about pussy, and if Jim the gay guy doesn't contribute, people will suspect he's gay, and he may be ostracized for not contributing, so now he has to make something up.

    I call that discriminatory.

    Just because its a rule. Doesn't make it right.

    We use to have some Jim Crow Rules, what were you gonna tell those people back then Conservative? Well it's the rules guys, if you don't like it, move north?
    There is no comparision to Jim Crow and the Military. The military is all volunteer. Amazing how many cannot grasp that concept.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There is no comparision to Jim Crow and the Military. The military is all volunteer. Amazing how many cannot grasp that concept.
    Its an example you hack. Glad to see you can't actually address my post.

    Why can't a gay man or woman serve in the military? Why is DADT a good thing?

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There is no comparision to Jim Crow and the Military. The military is all volunteer. Amazing how many cannot grasp that concept.
    Yet, the military became integrated. Wow, funny how the military actually does see that some things are discriminatory isn't it?
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII DIIIIIIIIIIIIIID NOOOOOOOOOOOT SAAAAAAY THAAAAAAAAAAT.

    Jesus Christ on a ****ing cross, what is wrong with you?
    Really? this isn't your quote,
    We have civilian control of the military, and DADT is an issue that affects civilians' ability to enlist, which in turn affects the military.
    So what exactly were you referring to since it doesn't appear that DADT affects the civilian's ability to enlist.

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