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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And we are working to make life more fair by trying to get DADT repealed.
    It's already fair. If you want to engage in behavior that is against the military code of conduct, leave the military. Have as much "fair" as you want.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    In one week...the Republican party has reassured us all where they stand on the issues. They are the party that is willing to hold the middle class/working class hostage for the benefit of the rich and they are willing to continue to use the military to forward their anti-gay agenda.
    tell it to obama

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    do you remember june of 09 when holder's doj in district compared gay marriage to incest and sex with 16 year olds?

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It's already fair. If you want to engage in behavior that is against the military code of conduct, leave the military. Have as much "fair" as you want.
    It's not fair. Gay servicemembers cannot do what I can do. They cannot tell everyone else in their command what gender of people they like or give details about their personal relationships that may reveal the gender of their significant other. I can. They cannot even put it on their social networking page that they are interested in the same sex, while I would be perfectly allowed to do so without any repercussions. They cannot get married and have that marriage recognized by every state in the union and the federal government, including the military, while I can. They could not live in the same housing that I now live in just because the federal government does not believe that their relationship is good enough, even if they are willing to make the commitment that I have made to my husband. These things are not fair, whether you see it or not.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    That's fine. Until it's removed as a military rule to be followed, DADT should stay just where it is. Progressive always use the civil rights movement as their poster boy for shoving their morals up everyone elses noses. This has nothing to do with the civil rights movement, this has to do with a volunteer military. If it eventually changes, fine. Until then, don't ask and don't tell is just peachy with me.
    Same thing that the bigots said during the civil rights movement. It absolutely is the same thing. Discrimination, hatred and bigotry are discrimination, hatred and bigotry be it in one form or another. The ones trying to shove their morals up everyone else's nose are the same ones that are sticking their noses into other people's lives where they don't belong.
    If people would just be content about living their own lives and focusing on their own "morality"....then the values and principles that America stands for would finally be in place.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I agree, Obama has been crap regarding LGBT issues, but it's not like the other guy in the race, McCain is any better. He is worse, he is leading the charge for DADT.
    he been "crap", as are most democrats when you ask them off mic. KNow why? Coz their "base" are mostly black and latino, or poor white trash, and if you don't have that vote, you, the Democracts would never EVER get elected. Black, latino's, and poor white trash, as much as they love the democrats, they sure as heck aren't all warm and fuzzy about homosexuals. That's why sunshine..


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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    Why do you keep bringing this up? It's not an argument for or against anything. It doesn't refute anyone's position on anything. Why are you obsessed with whether or not people are enlisting?
    Because this issue doesn't affect anyone that isn't enlisting. DADT doesn't affect you or anyone else outside the military.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    When Ockham says that life isn't fair, what he means to say is that "this particular law is unfair, but let's keep it anyway becomes I think it's gross that gay men stick their wingwangs in their bumskies."
    Whether it is fair or not, it is the law in an ALL VOLUNTEER MILITARY. You don't like the law and are gay then don't enlist.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Same thing that the bigots said during the civil rights movement. It absolutely is the same thing. Discrimination, hatred and bigotry are discrimination, hatred and bigotry be it in one form or another. The ones trying to shove their morals up everyone else's nose are the same ones that are sticking their noses into other people's lives where they don't belong.
    If people would just be content about living their own lives and focusing on their own "morality"....then the values and principles that America stands for would finally be in place.
    And it's still going to be around for quite a while. Get used to the voluntary "discrimination".
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Be real, would you really ever take the word of a straight soldier over that of a gay one or would you more likely believe the straight soldier is just making up the harassment charge? Be honest, you all would rally around the gay soldier and call anyone who believed the straight soldier homophobic.
    Personally, I don't see where orientation has anything to do with believability.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Because this issue doesn't affect anyone that isn't enlisting. DADT doesn't affect you or anyone else outside the military.
    I am enlisted and straight. It affects me because I know how many good workers we've lost to DADT and even one is too many people to lose because of a discriminatory policy that promotes intolerance.
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