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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    I agree; this is what I'd prefer, but it doesn't look like that they're going to budge anytime soon, especially with the election results. At least a lot of the people in congress voted against DADT's repeal due to some conviction over it, but Obama has stated his support for repeal several times. Why doesn't he just do it?
    I think that is answered above. It really would be more effective and more lasting if congress step up and took care of this.

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    Always disturbs me how these issues are settled by a bunch of people who wouldn't join the military under any circumstances.

    It's like having felons write criminal law.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Straight soldiers/sailors/marines are allowed and even encouraged to do many things, including getting married, bringing their loved ones to command events and ensuring that their loved ones are kept informed of certain command movements/activities, that gays are not allowed to do. These are things that every military member should be allowed to do because these are things that help to relieve some stress and worry from all servicemembers.
    Gay members can bring whomever they want to command events. There is no rule that states a male soldier must bring a female to said event or vice versa. As far as encouraged - encouraged by whom? I was never encouraged to get married by anyone in my command structure, nor was anyone else, so you'll need to provide some evidence as my direct experience disagrees with your statement. What servicemen and women do to reduce stress is their own business and every family and individual has their own way of coping. What this all boils down to after we separate the chaff is "gay marriage" again. Gays want to be openly gay and they cannot be openly gay while in the military without violating DADT. It has nothing to do with command events, or stress relief or any of that other nonsense. So, if they want marriage, they need to leave the military go to a state where gay marriage is legal, and get married and live their lives. I'm glad DADT stays, it should stay and LBGT people need to stop making their sexual proclivity other people's business.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Always disturbs me how these issues are settled by a bunch of people who wouldn't join the military under any circumstances.

    It's like having felons write criminal law.
    You mean congress?

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Always disturbs me how these issues are settled by a bunch of people who wouldn't join the military under any circumstances.

    It's like having felons write criminal law.
    Make all Congresspeople have served in the military then if you're so inclined.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Always disturbs me how these issues are settled by a bunch of people who wouldn't join the military under any circumstances.

    It's like having felons write criminal law.
    There's nothing disturbing about it; you just don't like gay people.

    Now respond with "I don't care whom people pork, etc."

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by SirPwn4lot View Post
    Make all Congresspeople have served in the military then if you're so inclined.
    I'd like them to do it for 1 week. Take them through the 1st week of basic, right now. Not the PT - 3/4 of them would die of heart attacks on the first day. The rest of it would be fine - it'll give them some perspective and bring back memories and perspective for those who did serve.

    How mean am I eh?

    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'd like them to do it for 1 week. Take them through the 1st week of basic, right now. Not the PT - 3/4 of them would die of heart attacks on the first day. The rest of it would be fine - it'll give them some perspective and bring back memories and perspective for those who did serve.
    I get the joke, but to be more serious, at what age?

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'm glad DADT stays, it should stay and LBGT people need to stop making their sexual proclivity other people's business.
    Oh puh-lease....it's people like you who make gay people's sex lives their business......why does it matter to you who people love and want to marry. If it doesn't involve you then you should stay out of it. However, you people always feel the need to stick your nose in other people's lives.
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