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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I bet you have no evidence you are not in a very small minority.
    Do you have evidence that I am in the small minority?

    I bet most our young people these days can handle being hit on by some one of the gender they are not attracted too quite easily. I bet saying "no thank you" is pretty easy, and the more attractive gay men and women frequently have to say it to both genders...and handle it.
    I doubt the US is going to reverse policy based on your betting that everything will just be fine.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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    Humanity would die out in short order...

    At least the environmentalists would be happy.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Do you have evidence that I am in the small minority?

    I doubt the US is going to reverse policy based on your betting that everything will just be fine.
    No, it is more likely that they will do so because they have studies that say that there will most likely be very few problems with repealing DADT and the fact that this is what the people want. (BTW, the American taxpayers paid for that study on what issues might come up when DADT is repealed. I love how so many Republicans are all for wasting that money by continuing to put this off because of their own biases and fears eventhough they asked for the study to be done.)
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No, it is more likely that they will do so because they have studies that say that there will most likely be very few problems with repealing DADT and the fact that this is what the people want. (BTW, the American taxpayers paid for that study on what issues might come up when DADT is repealed. I love how so many Republicans are all for wasting that money by continuing to put this off because of their own biases and fears eventhough they asked for the study to be done.)
    By the people who "want" this, do you mean military or civilian?

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    A win for the good guys......Looks like a repeal of DADT is dead..........

    Politics, Political News - POLITICO.com

    'DON'T ASK' STAYS: The Senate has failed to vote in favor of repealing "don't ask, don't tell." Democrats got 57 votes in favor of repealing it, three short of the 60 required.
    Wait, wait....so when Clinton established DADT, that was a win for gays...but when DADT is difended, that's a win for the anti-gays? wtf kind of backwards bull**** game are you spinnin?

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I bet you have no evidence you are not in a very small minority. I bet most our young people these days can handle being hit on by some one of the gender they are not attracted too quite easily. I bet saying "no thank you" is pretty easy, and the more attractive gay men and women frequently have to say it to both genders...and handle it.
    I'm pretty sure if you read what MSgt has to say on this topic he'll reflect IckFactor's argument...all be it with more insight, examples and sources.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    By the people who "want" this, do you mean military or civilian?
    Civilians.

    Civilians want it, elect leaders who are put in charge of the militery, so the military has to change so that the civilian leadership retains a voting block.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So the problem is not gays, the problem is with you.
    Look, Redress, I get how untenable my feelings are about possibly getting hit on by a gay guy, to you and others. I'm not even really trying to defend it. I'm just trying to put myself in the position of our 18 to 22 year old troops and look at this honestly. I think gays are probably as competent soldiers as straights and I would never condone physically assaulting a service member just for being gay, however we have to deal in what's real here and I do think it's interesting that nobody here is willing to assure me that instances of same sex propositioning (if you will) will not increase if DADT is repealed. Instead, you all are essentially telling me it's ok if it does. Do you all really not see the potential for trouble?

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    By the people who "want" this, do you mean military or civilian?
    The majority of civilians, who are the ones who elect Congressman to make (or remove) rules in the military. The head of the military also wants this, along with probably most of those military members who have actually worked with openly gay servicemembers. Many of those in the military could care less if it is repealed. There are some branches in which many of the members believe that there will be problems. However, most of those have admitted to never actually have worked with a gay person or even someone they believed to be gay. Which means that they really are just basing their opinions on fear of the unknown and/or what they have been told might happen.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I'm pretty sure if you read what MSgt has to say on this topic he'll reflect IckFactor's argument...all be it with more insight, examples and sources.
    Actually, we have discussed it, and we roughly agree. Some small problems, nothing unsolvable or particularly major.
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