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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by shades View Post
    my point is that if you allow all gays to openly talk and declare their gayness, that will include my "stereotypical".
    and they will push the envelope as sure as we are having this conversation.

    and my further point, again is that gays ARE allowed in the military now, as long as they conduct themselves in a way that doesnt include this sterotypical I describe.

    The very meaning of military, as anyone who has been thru the rigors of preparing for combat knows, does not allow this mindset.
    Its a macho environment, this is not a glee club.

    conduct yourself accordingly or you will be harassed.
    I dont care if you repeal till the cows come home, that really changes nothing.
    And will only add additional resentment if straight soldiers are somehow called aside and punished for telling an openly gay soldier to act like a soldier.

    quit being ridiculous.

    You are gay and want to serve in the military, come on in, but realize this is no place for you to soapbox your PC insecurities.

    deal with it
    You are really reaching. First, you are right, there is something of a macho mindset in the military which is not present in the rest of society. Those who don't have such a mindset don't do well in the military usually. This will not change, and in fact, most gays who enlist will fit into this macho mindset. Those who don't, much like straits who don't, won't generally succeed in their military career. Since not being of the personality type to handle military life well is something that is not based on orientation, it's a null factor in the discussion.

    This is not political correctness, nor are those who can handle being around gays the ones with "insecurities".
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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    Why should we ban LGBT soldiers from serving openly because it may offend someone, why are you singling out LGBT soldiers?
    It has to do with living in close proximity to those of the same sex who may find you sexually desirable. That would be something I wouldn't want to even know about.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    It has to do with living in close proximity to those of the same sex who may find you sexually desirable. That would be something I wouldn't want to even know about.
    In the words of a gay guy I knew once "I am not interested in strait guys, they would never be able to satisfy me".
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Actaully, the translation is, "act like a soldier and leave your private life private".
    If that was the policy for heterosexuals as well, you would have a point.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    In the words of a gay guy I knew once "I am not interested in strait guys, they would never be able to satisfy me".
    You can't say every gay soldier would see it that way, though. Gay or not, guys are, well, guys.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    It has to do with living in close proximity to those of the same sex who may find you sexually desirable. That would be something I wouldn't want to even know about.
    Why wouldn't you want to know about it?
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    There is another vote scheduled for tomorrow. It should be quite interesting.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Why wouldn't you want to know about it?
    I would not fully trust that guy to not act on his attraction.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I would not fully trust that guy to not act on his attraction.
    What does you knowing he is gay have to do with him acting on his attraction?

    Aren't you afraid that everyone might act on their attraction since you would rather not know?
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    What does you knowing he is gay have to do with him acting on his attraction?

    Aren't you afraid that everyone might act on their attraction since you would rather not know?
    If it's a guy, I would rather just assume he's not attracted to me, if it's a woman, I would rather assume that she is.

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