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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You are wrong. Holding hands or walking arm in arm is going to bother about .0000000001% of the military, and they already are troublemakers.
    holding hands and walking arm in arm is PDA, frowned upon by the military whether you are homo or hetero
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    holding hands and walking arm in arm is PDA, frowned upon by the military whether you are homo or hetero

    You mean like this?

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Just commenting on this last bit, since it is especially stupid. In the military, they have these things called uniforms. They have to wear them on duty. They are gender specific. Your concern simply is not going to happen.
    yeah, but according to the arguement some on your side make....wait for it....gender is a state of mind, not physical equipment. what is to stop some guy who thinks he is a woman trapped in a man's body from wearing a female uniform because he thinks he's a she? god forbid we infringe upon his/her civil rights....

    I know this is a reach and highly unlikely scenario....but I can see some gender confused person doing it just to make a statement.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    yeah...just like that...
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    They make allowances for ceremonies, but in general, you could not hold hands or kiss while in uniform.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    They make allowances for ceremonies, but in general, you could not hold hands or kiss while in uniform.

    I don't see why that image could not include two people of the same sex.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I don't see why that image could not include two people of the same sex.
    I don't either. Presumably gays will have the same allowances too.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I don't see why that image could not include two people of the same sex.
    that image is irrelevent to the discussion. but, of course, you knew that when you threw it up there.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    yeah, but according to the arguement some on your side make....wait for it....gender is a state of mind, not physical equipment. what is to stop some guy who thinks he is a woman trapped in a man's body from wearing a female uniform because he thinks he's a she? god forbid we infringe upon his/her civil rights....

    I know this is a reach and highly unlikely scenario....but I can see some gender confused person doing it just to make a statement.
    And, no matter how much you guys don't want to accept this, a man/woman who wants to wear/dress as the opposite sex is not necessarily homosexual. It is a separate issue from DADT. A person now could tell others that he/she is a crossdresser in their off time and the military could not discharge them for doing so under DADT.

    It may come up in the future what to do about crossdressers in the military (whether or not to allow them to actually wear the uniform of the opposite sex. I doubt that it will happen in the near future that the military allows this, even after DADT is repealed. It is a separate issue.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    holding hands and walking arm in arm is PDA, frowned upon by the military whether you are homo or hetero
    Not really so much out of uniform, on base.

    The point is that there are many things that are acceptable for a heterosexual to do but not a homosexual, on base and off base, in uniform or in civilian clothes (depending on the situation. There should just be one set of rules. Either it is acceptable for both to do it or isn't acceptable for either to do it.
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