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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by shades View Post
    lets see, handcuffing ones self to the white house fence, taping his mouth shut at a news conference.

    And before you say he did that after the fact,

    actions like this were just brewing inside waiting for a reason to "flaunt" it.

    its true with everyone who feels slighted thru predjudice.
    minorities, women, gays, whatever, it seems to be a common denominator. Give them a reason, and usually just a single person or entity that slights them, not a society at large, and they soap box it.
    Because people like you encourage it.

    and the battlefield is not the place for this kind of PC to take place.
    Its serious business this silly war thing you watch from afar.

    You want to serve, you're gay, then fine.
    but stfu and serve, dont "flaunt" it, define that any way youd like if it makes you feel better.
    We have generalized it for you, its called dont ask dont tell.
    ...well he did do it after the fact. The people who handcuffed themselves to the fence were not active duty, to my knowledge. So your only definition of flaunting it is participating in political rallies and demonstrations? You know members of the military can't do that anyway, right?
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by shades View Post
    Trust me, nothing has changed since Dont ask dont tell was put into place except pressure from a liberal administration

    you're playing PC politics with an established institution

    a lot like gay marriage being accepted by a small minority,
    but I suppose on that front no one is genuinly impacted
    1) this is no way addresses what I wrote.

    2) Things have changed since DADT was implemented. Public opinion has changed, the military is more used to having gay people in it's ranks, the military thinks it is ready for the change, the list goes on and on of things that have changed. One of the biggest changes is that there is a good chance there is enough support in congress to get it passed.

    By the way, this has nothing to do with political correctness. It has to do with equal protection and judging people by what they do and not what they are.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

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    May I ask where this person is from?
    I am not sure but he lives in Bremerton Wa.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    What's that Yogi used to say...'It ain't over 'til it's over'.


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    One more day and DADT is history.......There won't even be a vote and if there was the votes are not there...........The Senate adjourns tomorrow.........
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    One more day and DADT is history.......There won't even be a vote and if there was the votes are not there...........The Senate adjourns tomorrow.........
    If it doesn't pass now, NP, it will pass later. DADT repeal is far from dead for ever, even if it doesn't happen right now. Most likely it will happen in the next few years.

    And you keep messing up what I'm pretty sure you're trying to say (unless you've switched to our side). DADT being "history" would be good for our side NP. We are the ones who want DADT gone, and gays allowed to serve openly.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    If it doesn't pass now, NP, it will pass later. DADT repeal is far from dead for ever, even if it doesn't happen right now. Most likely it will happen in the next few years.

    And you keep messing up what I'm pretty sure you're trying to say (unless you've switched to our side). DADT being "history" would be good for our side NP. We are the ones who want DADT gone, and gays allowed to serve openly.
    You can't get 60 votes now and you damn sure won't be aable to in January............Having gays serve openly would open up a can of worms like you have never seen before.....Good senior people will leave the military in mass maybe up to one third................There will be a lot of fights especially aboard ship......There will be flaunting of their sexuality by gays.........It will be really bad on the beach off the ship where I believe gays will be assaulted..........It will be a travesty........The military might never recover.........With Gods help DADT will never be repealed in our lifetime............
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't get 60 votes now and you damn sure won't be aable to in January............Having gays serve openly would open up a can of worms like you have never seen before.....Good senior people will leave the military in mass maybe up to one third................There will be a lot of fights especially aboard ship......There will be flaunting of their sexuality by gays.........It will be really bad on the beach off the ship where I believe gays will be assaulted..........It will be a travesty........The military might never recover.........With Gods help DADT will never be repealed in our lifetime............
    well thats a bit overstated,

    but I do believe we are all on the same side inasfar as we all believe gays should be able to serve in the military.

    the only difference is some of us seem to think it would be best if you didnt talk about it.

    unless someone is discriminated against, in which case we should respond accordingly just like we do outside of the military.

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Having gays serve openly would open up a can of worms like you have never seen before.
    Hey, it's not gay if your underway. A navy guy I knew told me that.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by shades View Post
    A very liberal twist.

    pretend your listening, hows that?

    Dont ask dont tell means just that. In the sense that you know the line not to cross.

    Again, I am a devout Christain, and mentioning I am going to Sunday prayer over at the Chaplains tent, or saying "thank the good lord" before I eat, or mentioning my church back home is one thing.

    Using that I am a devout Christain to gain attention, or to make some kind of unecessary point is another.

    I've served with known atheists, known because they once mentioned it in conversation. And thats fine, it's accepted, still a good soldier, trusted, respected.

    But if he talks about it in a look at me look at me kind of way,
    or claims he wants someone punished because they dont agree with his beliefs then he's got trouble, trouble he asked for.

    I'm speaking reality, I notice most liberals, on this subject are speaking of some sort of perfect world that just doesnt exist, on the battlefield, they're kids, for the most part. And teaching them to be PC is not the militarys job. We have enough troubles without worrying if someones feelings are being hurt.

    Can you grasp that?
    There's no twist. It's the reality. Homosexuals have to hide their relationships. Heterosexuals don't.
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    Re: 'Don't ask' repeal fails in Senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't get 60 votes now and you damn sure won't be aable to in January............Having gays serve openly would open up a can of worms like you have never seen before.....Good senior people will leave the military in mass maybe up to one third................There will be a lot of fights especially aboard ship......There will be flaunting of their sexuality by gays.........It will be really bad on the beach off the ship where I believe gays will be assaulted..........It will be a travesty........The military might never recover.........With Gods help DADT will never be repealed in our lifetime............
    Navy, you really need to quit insulting our troops like this. Kids aren't scared of gays like the elderly are. If the elderly want to retire because they believe gays are worse than al qaeda, I'd rather they not be in the decision making positions that they hold.

    "The military might not recover."

    Let me know when the homosexuals destroy the IDF. Then I'll stop laughing at your absurd statements.
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